PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

[RolloTamasi]

So then why not mandate that every player on the team hit 300?

Weak analogy.
Try again.

 

[ZNP]

True, mostly, and I don't really agree with mandates.

But on the other hand, what do you do when far too many people are doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason? Especially when their decision may affect others for life?

Well people are panicked, you can't stop them from getting the jab, they would freak out, so I think you share the truth about the risks and rewards.

Yes, if they all start getting sick and dropping like flies it will certainly affect the rest of us who aren't vaccinated, but hopefully they will learn from this mistake.

In the end you preach the gospel, warn people of the coming crisis, and trust the Lord to do the rest.

 

[ZNP]

Weak analogy.
Try again.

Yes, I pointed out in post 4419 your analogy was fatally flawed because no one cares if you get the vaccine, the issue is whether or not it should be mandated.

 

[Gojira]

That is exactly what that scoundrel Cuomo said while he totally destroyed New York state and killed off a lot of seniors.

Now everyone is demanding his resignation, but he will not give up his evil deeds and refuses to quit.

So my response to your pathetic title thread is this:
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE REJECT ALL BOGUS COVID "VACCINES" WHICH ARE BIOWEAPONS TO STEAL, KILL AND DESTROY.

This is Satan's agenda going full tilt through his minions.

There are a number of other, perfectly valid and effective treatments that do not require the injecting of an experimental technology (which may have caused a good friend of mine to have a stroke a month after he got it).

If I get this virus, I will battle it through other, time-tested means, build up a NATURAL immunity to it, not have to perpetually return for boosters for a never-ending crisis (which is entirely too useful for a government and media bent on overthrowing our Republic), and in the process say NO to a State that is just a little too anxious for us to get this thing.

No, IMHO, this is about control, not public safety. If you want the shot, get it. Those of us who do not will take our chances, but more than likely build up a stronger and longer-lasting natural immunity to it.

 

[Gojira]

That's not the problem. The problem is the lies and misinformation spread by anti vaxxers. If you don't want it, fine. Don't try to guilt trip those who do.

If by misinformation you mean the lies perpetrated by Fauci, CNN, and others, I'd agree with you. They're trying to make this virus, of which 99% of people who get it survive, into an airborne AIDS, which would have a 0% survival rate. Now that would be a medical crisis.

 

[RolloTamasi]

Yes, I pointed out in post 4419 your analogy was fatally flawed because no one cares if you get the vaccine, the issue is whether or not it should be mandated.

So did Jesus mandate a number that decided going to the cross or not?

 

[ZNP]

So did Jesus mandate a number that decided going to the cross or not?

The Lord has given His believers commands. However, it is your free will whether or not to receive Jesus as Lord. It is the beast that mandates the mark of the beast, not Jesus.

 

[Gojira]

Pathetic thread? Wow. It is hard to believe you actually said that.
Cuomo is being removed for sexual misconduct, NOT how he handled Covid.

Which is bogus considering his policies led to thousands of unnecessary deaths in NY. No, the Left knows they botched it on that one, so they had to nail him for something.

 

[RolloTamasi]

The Lord has given His believers commands. However, it is your free will whether or not to receive Jesus as Lord. It is the beast that mandates the mark of the beast, not Jesus.

Free will?
What percent is that?
50%?

 

[ZNP]

Free will?
What percent is that?
50%?

Oh, you have not received the Lord, simply confess to the Lord that you are a sinner, trying to be a little tyrant and forcing this experimental shot on everyone despite the Spirit telling them not to. Just pray "Lord Jesus, I also would like to have the Holy Spirit indwell me and speak to me".

 

[ZNP]

Pathetic thread? Wow. It is hard to believe you actually said that.
Cuomo is being removed for sexual misconduct, NOT how he handled Covid.

https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/22/andrew-cuomo-personally-edited-undercounted-nursing-home-report/

 

[RolloTamasi]

Oh, you have not received the Lord, simply confess to the Lord that you are a sinner, trying to be a little tyrant and forcing this experimental shot on everyone despite the Spirit telling them not to. Just pray "Lord Jesus, I also would like to have the Holy Spirit indwell me and speak to me".

Well, regardless of what you say, 30% hitting in baseball is success!

 

[Genipher]

So an individual chooses not to wear one and is badly injured in a wreck because of it. Said individual also chose not to buy health insurance, and doesn't have the money to pay for his medical treatment. Should that individual be treated, even tho the cost will be put upon others (the insured and the taxpayers)?

Likewise, yon individual does not get the shot. S/He catches covid and has a very mild case. Good for them. But they infect someone else, who is not as lucky, gets deathly sick, and ends up with a humongous medical bill. Is it fair to allocate the cost of not getting a shot upon an another person who incurs an expense because of it?

That's a lot of "what ifs" but, yes. If a person chooses to put themselves in a position where they get hurt (which happens a lot of different, stupid ways) and happens to have zero insurance, the hospitals are still obliged to treat them. In fact, every hospital I've ever been to has a sign that says they will treat a patient whether they have insurance or not.

You know, people can get deathly sick in a myriad of ways. My son used to deal with "sickness induced asthma" when he was little. All it took was one person infecting him with a cold and, odds were, we would end up in the hospital with him on oxygen. If I was a bitter person, I would blame that "unknown sick person" who infected my kid but I've always known that you can't control germs and poo like that happens in a fallen world. Yes, we were lucky enough to have insurance but there was a time period where we were almost drowning in medical bills. Would it have been fair to blame whoever infected my kid and caused us financial hardship? Nope. Not their fault.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Those of us who do not will take our chances, but more than likely build up a stronger and longer-lasting natural immunity to it.

The fact of natural immunity has been currently suppressed or sabotaged by the public health agencies and the media deliberately, so that vaccines, intubation, and ventilators are seen as "the saviors" (even though they are the exact opposite).

Since January 2020, everyone should have been properly educated about the way in which God has designed a COMPLEX AND SOPHISTICATED immune system involving organs, tissues, and cells. Once a virus or bacterium attacks the body, the entire system responds and blocks the attacker from multiplying. Then the body produces antibodies, which remain and remember which organism is coming back for another attack, and then deals with it. But if a person does not maintain his or her health, the immune system is weakened. The mRNA "vaccines" are in fact attacking the immune system and destroying it!

 

[shittim]

Well, regardless of what you say, 30% hitting in baseball is success!

Precious! Thanks!

 

[Aidan1]

They say 30% of the world claims to be Christian. Let's assume that number is correct.

What if Jesus decided not to go to the cross because 30% effectiveness wasn't worth it?

He went already to the cross and showed love to us when we was his enemys. Our Lord counts not in the way you do.

 

[Aidan1]

No, this is not true, and this is because you do not understand.

Yes, it appears to protect you from some variants, but not from others. If you are exposed to a variant, like the Delta variant, that it does not protect you from it does not give you any protection.

By vaccinating everyone they create an environment where all the variants that you are not protected from will become prevalent. If you only vaccinated those who were most at risk, perhaps 5%, then those variants would not become prevalent and the vaccine would be far more effective for those who need it most, ie it would save more lives.

As for "do you believe in evolution" I have no interest in that debate. I qualified the remark saying "survival of the fittest". That is a very biblical concept. This is why Paul says physical exercise has some benefit. What Darwin actually observed was "survival of the fittest". He theorized a process which has since been debunked mathematically as being an impossible explanation.

Now some will say that since I am protected from some variants that is better than nothing. Again, that is not true. They have forced your body to make antibodies specific to one feature of one virus (spike protein) and therefore you have fewer non specific antibodies. That makes your immune response to all other viruses weaker. This is not simply a theory but has been shown with peer reviewed studies. A good analogy is the Magino line, a very robust defense of the French border with Germany. It would have worked great except that Germany drove through Belgium and around that wall. If France had had tanks instead of a wall (non specific antibodies versus specific antibodies) they would not have fallen to Germany in two weeks.

If the vaccine is not protecting, why then we find almost unvaccined people on the icu's ?
Of course delta came after the vaccine. But still it shows that there is protection. Otherwise there would be no different between vaccined and unvaccined people.

 

[Nehemiah6]

If the vaccine is not protecting, why then we find almost unvaccined people on the icu's ?

Somebody is lying. You don't. It is the vaccinated people who are being hospitalized!
"A German doctor warns Corona vaccines are toxic…each booster become increasingly dangerous…which is tantamount to self-destruction."

Doctor Warns Covid Jabs: “A Programmed Self-Destruction Of The Body”
https://principia-scientific.com/doctor-warns-covid-jabs-a-programmed-self-destruction-of-the-body/

 

[Nehemiah6]

EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Dr. Zelenko to The Gateway Pundit: CDC’s Response to COVID-19 “A Crime Against Humanity. Mass Murder. And Genocide…”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...covid-19-crime-humanity-mass-murder-genocide/

 

[Nehemiah6]

Somebody is lying. You don't. It is the vaccinated people who are being hospitalized!

More TRUTH from a German doctor for people like Aidan.
Tue Nov 23, 2021 - 6:05 pm EST
(LifeSiteNews) – A dissenting perspective from COVID-19 orthodoxy has found its way into one of the medical establishment’s most prestigious voices, with a letter by a German epidemiologist criticizing the narrative that COVID now represents a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.”

Dr. Günter Kampf is associate professor for hygiene and environmental medicine at the University Medicine Greifswald, Institute for Hygiene and Environmental Medicine in Germany. His letter, published in The Lancet’s November 20 edition, highlights “increasing evidence that vaccinated individuals continue to have a relevant role in transmission” of the virus, and therefore the idea that “the unvaccinated threaten the vaccinated” is “far too simple.” [AS WELL AS A BLATANT LIE]
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/l...cinated/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa