Please help me to understand

[homwardbound]

What is logically or scripturally implausible with this following understanding of the relationship between Jesus Christ and God

Firstly, we know of corporate entities consisting of several in charge persons (such as a parliamentary government or a triumvirate or a joint-owned company). The managing body (the coalition caucus, the triumvirate itself or the board) is called its "head" . Individual members of the governing body they are a member of may speak for the body, and make pronouncements for the body. Individual members of the governing body may be commissioned by the body to perform some action.

An individual from within the body may say either, "The Board requires that such and such be done." Or maybe ,"My instruction is that such and such must be done. When a member says, "I instruct ..." or "My instruction is...." he is not thereby claiming or implying that he is the only person running the show. When a different person on the board says "I require that such and such be done," he is not thereby denying the equal authority of the first member. But both members orders must be with the approval of the board to be valid.

There are several divine Persons in the Godhead running the universe. When One speaks, He speaks for All with the approval of All. The fact that it is the Son speaking commanding His will in His own name ("This is what I command...") does not logically imply He is claiming to be the only person in command. The fact that the Son speaks in the name of the entire Godhead ("This is what Yahweh says...") does not imply that Yahweh must be only one Person in Yahweh.

Unlike any other "board" the divine Persons in "Yahweh" have a unique degree of perfect unity of purpose and knowledge, so that they act in unison and agree unanimously, as if they were one person conversing with himself and making decisions. Wanting to convey this perfect unity, not being a board who argues and debates with internal power struggles and political manoeuvring, Yahweh refers to Yahweh using the words: I, We, My and Mine.

Secondly, we refer to the one who generates something are the father of it. Yahweh is the generator of all things, through the Word commanding what Yahweh willed, and the Holy Spirit shaping what came into existence at the Word's command. So, in one sense the Son is the everlasting Father of the things He speaks into existence. and in another sense Yahweh is the everlasting Father of all things Yahweh agrees that the Word should speak into existence. There may also be a third Person in Yahweh who is designated within Yahweh for a role that is more fatherly, the chairman of the board, voted in by the rest of the board, who is referred to sometimes as the Father. Since we have at least three possible referents to "the Father" in scripture, in reference to deity, we should be free to determine which one is meant when it is used in a particular place in scripture, based on logic and context and Holy Spirit illumination.

If we study your scriptures in the light of my explanation here, they do not prove what you are reading into them based on your rather limited acknowledgement of the nuances of language as it is actually used in real life.

Isaiah 43:10

Authorized (King James) Version

10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord,
and my servant whom I have chosen:
that ye may know and believe me,
and understand that I am he:
before me there was no God formed,
neither shall there be after me.

Father is one and shares with whomever Father chooses to. First start of that was, Noah in the flood and first government
Abraham in the promise of our now known Messiah Jesus, that no one understood, how it would ever play out. Not even the disciples who saw him crucified and then risen, as well as still had to get this explained to them starts in Acts 1. Yet Disciples carried on even after Pentecost in not really understanding the entire truth, and did not take this truth to all as were called to do.
So, God got Saul to be Paul to express the culmination, dispensation of it all for us all.
to sort out all truth from day one in the fall of Adam the first for us to see the promise to Abraham fulfilled in risen Son, Adam the second
God loves us all, yes even you too. Start right there and begin to see new and learn from Father and Son as won for you too. Be new in love and mercy to all too, thank you John 13:34

 

[Psalm1]

A step-by-step explanation with clear examples would make it easier to follow and apply. Understanding this properly will help me make better decisions and avoid common mistakes related to it.

The op states " there is someone in heaven in charge ,and it is not Jesus"

Jesus is who the Bible says he is.
The Bible says that Jesus is the creator of all things visible and invisible.
Jesus, the father and the Holy Spirit are all won.
If someone wants to break down the higharchy, or the chain of command, that would be some kind of a debate I suppose.
It could be :
Father
Son
Holy Spirit.

But the actual dynamic is deeper.

 

[bytheblood]

Yes, God is triune: The Father sent the Son, and the Father and Son send those they indwell as the HS.

" I AM the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, saith the LORD, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the ALMIGHTY." Revelation 1:8 When has the Father ever been was? This is the Revelation of Jesus Christ (1:1) and it is Him speaking, He IS the Almighty. Also, " Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God ( Spirit ), thought it not robbery to be equal with God." Philippians 2:5-6. When the word send or sent is used it implies that one superior is sending one inferior. The Word (equal with the Father) volunteered to humble Himself, became lower than the angels (for the suffering of death), put on flesh, suffer rejection, unbelief, persecution, spitting. mocking, smiting, scourging, crucifixion etc., etc. Jesus volunteered from the beginning ( leaving heaven ), to the cross AND the resurrection. Yes, Jesus said the Father sent Him, after He had volunteered to go, IMHO.

 

[bytheblood]

I asked AI to list for me 20 scriptures that identify the source of understanding. Here are the first six with AI interpretation in black text followed by my interpretation in purple text.
AI interpretation of the following Scripture in black text
my comments are in purple text
Job 32: 8 This scripture establishes that human intellect alone is not the ultimate source of understanding. True comprehension is a spiritual gift that comes directly from the "inspiration" (breath) of God. It is the Holy Spirit breathing upon the human spirit that illuminates the mind. According to Isaiah 63: 9-10 the Holy Spirit is referred to as "the angel of His presence". Angel because it can be sent, and where the Holy Spirit is, the Father is. The Holy Spirit is a portal through which the invisible God (the Father) can interact with our reality. Our reality is in the mind of the Father. That is how He has all those godly qualities and divine powers. A God that has always existed most certainly must have created many realities. Ours is one of many. God, the God of all realities, is the Father of our reality because our reality is created in the mind of the Father, and that is why He is referred to as the invisible God. The Father interacts in our reality through His Holy Spirit. It is through His Holy Spirit acting as a portal that the Father can enter the being indwelled in order to enlighten, communicate His will, speak through, motivate, and empower to perform His will. In a reality with nothing in it and nothing happening, there is no concept of time. In our reality time began when the Father placed a being in it because now we have a before this event, during this event, and after this event. This being is the first being in our reality and is called the "first and only begotten Son of God". The Father fills this being with His Glory (His Holy Spirit), and because the Father is in the Son's being, the Son loves the Father and shows his love through obedience, the Son is the image of the invisible God, the Father. John 5: 20 For the Father loveth the Son, and showeth him all things that he himself doeth; and he will show him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. In our reality, the Father, who is in the Son, is taking His Son for a ride through the process of creation and interaction with creation. When a true Christian is indwelled with the Holy Spirit, the Son, and the Father who is in the Son, both enter our beings.
Proverbs 2: 6 Understanding is not merely a product of education or experience; it is a gift from the Lord. Specifically, it proceeds "out of his mouth," indicating that God's spoken word and His revealed truth are the primary vehicles for delivering understanding to us. The gift from the Lord is the Holy Spirit which is the portal through which both Father and Son can deliver communitcation and understanding to the being indwelled.
1 John 5: 20 The source of this specific spiritual understanding is the Son of God, Jesus Christ. His arrival and finished work provided believers with a new mental and spiritual capacity ("given us an understanding") specifically designed to know God relationally. Matt 11: 27 All things are delivered unto me by my Father, and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, except the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him. God is the Father of all realities. In our reality He first placed a living, thinking, feeling, willful, loving being in it and called him His Son. The Father interacts with our reality through His Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a portal through which the Father can enter the being indwelled Isaiah 63: 9-10 Through the Holy Spirit, the Father's presence is in the Son's being. The Father loves the Son and shows this love by empowering His Son to create our reality and placing all creation under His Son's feet. When a created being is given a free will and the knowledge of right and wrong, He is then responsible for his thoughts, motivation, and actions. Humanity is a failed creation because their motivation for living is self first. The Son loves the Father and shows his love through obedience unto physical death. The Father rewards His Son by giving him a glorified (filled with the Holy Spirit) body made up of the souls of those humans who are glorified (baptized with the Holy Spirit).
Psalm 111: 10 Obedience is the engine of understanding. This scripture teaches that understanding is not just theoretical; it is acquired by doing God's commandments. Those who obey God gain a "good understanding" that disobedience obscures. Not even the Jews were able to keep the Letter of the Law. Jesus made it easy for us by presenting the Spirit of the Law during his physical time on earth. The determining factor changed from performing works to obtain favor from God to being in a state of being called Love for God first and love for all others as one loves himself. It is the Father and the Son through the Holy Spirit that change our motivation for living from love of self first to love of God first and all others second. This is what happens when one is born again. The Son shows the Father his love through obedience. We show our love to the Father and Christ when we are in that state of being and all of our thoughts and actions are motivated by love.
Proverbs 9: 10 The "knowledge of the holy" (knowing God's character and nature) is identified as the very substance of understanding. You cannot possess true understanding without an intimate knowledge of who God is. John 17: 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Luke 24: 45 This refers to the resurrected Jesus. It illustrates that the human mind is naturally closed to the full depth of Scripture (seeing through a glass darkly) until Jesus supernaturally "opens" it. The source of biblical insight is a direct divine intervention by Christ. He does this when he baptizes us with the Holy Spirit and enters our beings.

You do realize that the Holy Spirit is a person, don't you??

 

[LongJackGolds]

The bible clearly explains the meaning of Oneness.
John 10: 30,38 I and my Father are One. But if I do (the works of my Father), though ye believe not me, believe the works, that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Eph 2: 18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit unto the Father. Eph 4: 4-6 There is One body (the body of Christ), and One Spirit (the Spirit of the Father), even (that is) as ye are called in One hope of your calling (given to those called); One Lord (Christ), One faith (believing and trusting in Christ), One baptism (in the name of the Father because He chooses by granting repentance), One God and Father of all (including Jesus Christ), who is above all (including Christ), and through all (because our reality is in the mind of the Father), and in you all (when we receive the Holy Spirit of the Father and the Son). John 17: 17: 20- 24 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also who shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be One , as thou, Father, art in me, and I in Thee, that they also, may be One in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory (Holy Spirit of the Father), which thou gavest me I have given them, that they may be One, even (that is) as we are One; I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in One; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. John 17: 11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to Thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name (Baptism in the name of the Father) those whom thou hast given me (the Father chooses) , that they may be one, as we are. John 8: 29 And He that sent me is with me. That Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please Him. The Father is with Jesus because Jesus is filled with the Holy Spirit which acts as a portal for the Father to enter his being. It is through the Holy Spirit that Jesus is one with the Father, and through the Holy Spirit that we are one with the Son and become one with the Father.

No, it does not agree with your made up theology from the 1800s

 

[Undergrace1]

God Almighty can not be sent by anyone. If anyone is sent, He is the sender. Jesus was in heaven with the Father when he was sent by Him to become a man and die. Jesus kept on saying that he was sent by the Father to complete a mission. According to Jesus, his bread was to do the Father's will. It seems that there is someone in charge, and it's not Jesus.

Well I don’t know if you are a troll or not, but I will assume not.

In my experience, you should keep well away from discussing this subject on the internet. And again in my experience, it is one discussed on the internet and extremely rarely in the churches(the ones I have been to anyway.)

As far as I know ALL(ALL) Christians believe either the Father or Holy Spirit fully dwells in Christ(depending on the term the person wishes to uses.)

So, in the essence of Christ, there is no disagreement concerning this subject. The disagreement concerns solely His title and whether the Father is greater than he.

And this is where it gets frankly ridiculous, what title must one give to Christ in order to be saved, biblically speaking, the Son of God or the one true God? Well that’s obvious from scripture, however, for the scholar and theologian it can be overridden, and they may quote verses such as John8:58 to try and prove it.

But no matter what they reason, according to what they insist upon, it would mean, if a person stands on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth they will be condemn ed to hell(John10:29, John14:28, John17:3)



As Paul said:



The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise are futile 1Cor3:20

 

[GWH]

" I AM the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, saith the LORD, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the ALMIGHTY." Revelation 1:8 When has the Father ever been was? This is the Revelation of Jesus Christ (1:1) and it is Him speaking, He IS the Almighty. Also, " Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God ( Spirit ), thought it not robbery to be equal with God." Philippians 2:5-6. When the word send or sent is used it implies that one superior is sending one inferior. The Word (equal with the Father) volunteered to humble Himself, became lower than the angels (for the suffering of death), put on flesh, suffer rejection, unbelief, persecution, spitting. mocking, smiting, scourging, crucifixion etc., etc. Jesus volunteered from the beginning ( leaving heaven ), to the cross AND the resurrection. Yes, Jesus said the Father sent Him, after He had volunteered to go, IMHO.

Thus, God sent Himself in the human dimension by becoming incarnate (John 1:1-14).

 

[homwardbound]

" I AM the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, saith the LORD, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the ALMIGHTY." Revelation 1:8 When has the Father ever been was? This is the Revelation of Jesus Christ (1:1) and it is Him speaking, He IS the Almighty. Also, " Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God ( Spirit ), thought it not robbery to be equal with God." Philippians 2:5-6. When the word send or sent is used it implies that one superior is sending one inferior. The Word (equal with the Father) volunteered to humble Himself, became lower than the angels (for the suffering of death), put on flesh, suffer rejection, unbelief, persecution, spitting. mocking, smiting, scourging, crucifixion etc., etc. Jesus volunteered from the beginning ( leaving heaven ), to the cross AND the resurrection. Yes, Jesus said the Father sent Him, after He had volunteered to go, IMHO.

To save humanity, in his resurrection that Father gives in Spirit and Truth. Not of flesh and blood. Since no flesh (since Jesus is perfect in our undeserved places) Father is pleased. This was to give new life in Father's Spirit and Truth, once anyone believes God loves them through Son for them. For us to be new in love and mercy. The same as Son did first for us all first. Therefore going to that cross without any flesh fight back at all, saves us in his resurrection gvien to us bt y Father as Daddy chooses, not Anyone else. That is done once for all. Therefore in the resurrection from Father to give that to all that are sincere to know Father and Son wihtout any other motives in the way
Read James that states you ask, you are not given, could that be you only want to spend this gift on you? God always knows best
And wants best for everyone Jeremiah 29:11

 

[bytheblood]

To save humanity, in his resurrection that Father gives in Spirit and Truth. Not of flesh and blood. Since no flesh (since Jesus is perfect in our undeserved places) Father is pleased. This was to give new life in Father's Spirit and Truth, once anyone believes God loves them through Son for them. For us to be new in love and mercy. The same as Son did first for us all first. Therefore going to that cross without any flesh fight back at all, saves us in his resurrection gvien to us bt y Father as Daddy chooses, not Anyone else. That is done once for all. Therefore in the resurrection from Father to give that to all that are sincere to know Father and Son wihtout any other motives in the way
Read James that states you ask, you are not given, could that be you only want to spend this gift on you? God always knows best
And wants best for everyone Jeremiah 29:11

What?? I was responding to a post that stated the Almighty can't be sent. Some of your post, what I can decipher, I agree with but I was responding to another post.

 

[bytheblood]

Thus, God sent Himself in the human dimension by becoming incarnate (John 1:1-14).

If anything God, the WORD, volunteered ,THEN God, the Father, sent Him, in seed form, accompanied by God, the Holy Spirit.

 

[Mem]

What constitutes the distinction of one person from another is an individual will. So, one person can't send the other person to do his will if he has no will of his own, otherwise, he'd only be doing his own will and can only rightly claim, "I came to do my will."
Not sure if I can clearly explain what I'm thinking...

 

[homwardbound]

What?? I was responding to a post that stated the Almighty can't be sent. Some of your post, what I can decipher, I agree with but I was responding to another post.

okay, no offense meant, only stating God's love for us all to stand in trust to God's done work for all in love and mercy to all
thanks you beleive God in risen Son also, thank you

 

[GWH]

If anything God, the WORD, volunteered ,THEN God, the Father, sent Him, in seed form, accompanied by God, the Holy Spirit.

Yes, God volunteered/planned before creation (Eph. 1:4-5&11) as Father to send God incarnate as Son (Eph. 1:3&9-10),
who sends God as the HS to indwell saints (Eph. 1:13-15) as spiritual children of God (Eph. 1:5).

 

[bytheblood]

What constitutes the distinction of one person from another is an individual will. So, one person can't send the other person to do his will if he has no will of his own, otherwise, he'd only be doing his own will and can only rightly claim, "I came to do my will."
Not sure if I can clearly explain what I'm thinking...

In Spirit form all three members of the Godhead had the same will, as They do now. When the Word put on flesh He lived strictly as man, although God. By not operating as God in His earthly sojourn, Jesus felt the pull of the flesh " For we have not an High Priest which cannot be touched with the FEELING of our infirmities ( weaknesses); but was IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE AS WE ARE, yet without sin." Heb 4:15. " If He were operating as God He could NOT BE TEMPTED!" And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself and BECAME OBEDIENT unto death, even the death of the cross." Philippians 2:8. Jesus, experientially, knows, as we all do, the temptation to follow our own wills. The only, or major, instance, IMHO, that He "BECAME OBEDIENT" was in the garden of Gethsemane when He said ..... " if it be possible, let this cup pass from Me: NEVERTHELESS NOT AS I WILL, BUT AS THOU WILT." Matthew 26:39. Jesus, the Last Adam, passed the test that the first Adam failed. That's one of the reasons that I am so eternally grateful for His sacrifice, because He didn't HAVE to do it, but because of His love for us, He did. I can only love Him, because He first loved me. Praise be to God for His unspeakable Gift. " How can I say thanks for the things He has done for me, things so undeserved, yet He gives to prove His love for me..." Words from the song My Tribute by Andre Crouch

 

[Mem]

In Spirit form all three members of the Godhead had the same will, as They do now. When the Word put on flesh He lived strictly as man, although God. By not operating as God in His earthly sojourn, Jesus felt the pull of the flesh " For we have not an High Priest which cannot be touched with the FEELING of our infirmities ( weaknesses); but was IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE AS WE ARE, yet without sin." Heb 4:15. " If He were operating as God He could NOT BE TEMPTED!" And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself and BECAME OBEDIENT unto death, even the death of the cross." Philippians 2:8. Jesus, experientially, knows, as we all do, the temptation to follow our own wills. The only, or major, instance, IMHO, that He "BECAME OBEDIENT" was in the garden of Gethsemane when He said ..... " if it be possible, let this cup pass from Me: NEVERTHELESS NOT AS I WILL, BUT AS THOU WILT." Matthew 26:39. Jesus, the Last Adam, passed the test that the first Adam failed. That's one of the reasons that I am so eternally grateful for His sacrifice, because He didn't HAVE to do it, but because of His love for us, He did. I can only love Him, because He first loved me. Praise be to God for His unspeakable Gift. " How can I say thanks for the things He has done for me, things so undeserved, yet He gives to prove His love for me..." Words from the song My Tribute by Andre Crouch

If I have the same will as my son, that doesn't mean that I am him. When Jesus said, "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father," He wasn't saying, "Luke, I am your Father," exactly, as much as He was saying something similar to, "No one can come to Me unless My Father draws him." That is, that Jesus had come was solid proof of His Father's character to send us a savior as much as it is proof that Jesus is willing to die for His Father as much as for us, considering that He is our reconciliation to the Father. It is Father's will that we be reconciled to Him, and the only Way is through His Son, in Whom God's justice and mercy have kissed.

And, if any of the Three would not have peace with this plan, we'd all have been left for lost causes without hope. Jesus' peace was momentarily shaken, perhaps because He was in flesh, but then again, He was never a "natural man," not exactly. Scripture refers to Him as "the heavenly man." And we can't assume that neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit never experienced anything similar to that moment that Jesus came to within Himself, not just because they are 'only' spirit but that they are just as much 'the person' of God, of Whom All Loved the One as much as the Other. There is no revelation of God without that revelation of relationship. These are the Top Model of the utmost love in relationship. Indeed, of all relationships, there is nothing lasting that can hold it together if God is not in it.

With all that said, one of the Names in reference to Jesus is given as "Everlasting Father" so, in that sense He is our Father in the same sense as Adam is the father of all-natural man.

 

[Lovette]

God Almighty can not be sent by anyone. If anyone is sent, He is the sender. Jesus was in heaven with the Father when he was sent by Him to become a man and die. Jesus kept on saying that he was sent by the Father to complete a mission. According to Jesus, his bread was to do the Father's will. It seems that there is someone in charge, and it's not Jesus.

Jesus the Son is God the Father's incarnation on earth, His power comes from the Holy Spirit. He was like an embassador of a king or a subsidiary of a company in a foreign country. I don't see what's hard to understand.

I can tell you that what's a bit hard for me to understand is the "co-equal" part in the trinity doctrine, since He was sent by God the Father, He was always obedient to the Father, and He was seated at the right hand side of the Father, all these suggest that Jesus is below God the Father in terms of hierarchy.

 

[GWH]

If I have the same will as my son, that doesn't mean that I am him. When Jesus said, "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father," He wasn't saying, "Luke, I am your Father," exactly, as much as He was saying something similar to, "No one can come to Me unless My Father draws him." That is, that Jesus had come was solid proof of His Father's character to send us a savior as much as it is proof that Jesus is willing to die for His Father as much as for us, considering that He is our reconciliation to the Father. It is Father's will that we be reconciled to Him, and the only Way is through His Son, in Whom God's justice and mercy have kissed.

And, if any of the Three would not have peace with this plan, we'd all have been left for lost causes without hope. Jesus' peace was momentarily shaken, perhaps because He was in flesh, but then again, He was never a "natural man," not exactly. Scripture refers to Him as "the heavenly man." And we can't assume that neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit never experienced anything similar to that moment that Jesus came to within Himself, not just because they are 'only' spirit but that they are just as much 'the person' of God, of Whom All Loved the One as much as the Other. There is no revelation of God without that revelation of relationship. These are the Top Model of the utmost love in relationship. Indeed, of all relationships, there is nothing lasting that can hold it together if God is not in it.

With all that said, one of the Names in reference to Jesus is given as "Everlasting Father" so, in that sense He is our Father in the same sense as Adam is the father of all-natural man.

Yes, there is no revelation of God without relationship and God's desire for fellowship with humanity aka love.
Yes, as A&E were the first sinners, so Christ was the first to be resurrected per 1Cor. 15:20-23 and founder of God's house
per Heb. 3:3-6, and believers are members of God's household per Eph. 2:19-22 and co-heirs with Christ per Rom. 8:17.

 

[GWH]

Jesus the Son is God the Father's incarnation on earth, His power comes from the Holy Spirit. He was like an embassador of a king or a subsidiary of a company in a foreign country. I don't see what's hard to understand.

I can tell you that what's a bit hard for me to understand is the "co-equal" part in the trinity doctrine, since He was sent by God the Father, He was always obedient to the Father, and He was seated at the right hand side of the Father, all these suggest that Jesus is below God the Father in terms of hierarchy.

Yes, but in heaven the last are first, meaning all souls are equal,
and implying God is One.

 

[Lovette]

Yes, but in heaven the last are first, meaning all souls are equal,
and implying God is One.

God is of spirit, Jesus is of both fresh and spirit, there's no direct comparison.

 

[bytheblood]

If I have the same will as my son, that doesn't mean that I am him. When Jesus said, "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father," He wasn't saying, "Luke, I am your Father," exactly, as much as He was saying something similar to, "No one can come to Me unless My Father draws him." That is, that Jesus had come was solid proof of His Father's character to send us a savior as much as it is proof that Jesus is willing to die for His Father as much as for us, considering that He is our reconciliation to the Father. It is Father's will that we be reconciled to Him, and the only Way is through His Son, in Whom God's justice and mercy have kissed.

And, if any of the Three would not have peace with this plan, we'd all have been left for lost causes without hope. Jesus' peace was momentarily shaken, perhaps because He was in flesh, but then again, He was never a "natural man," not exactly. Scripture refers to Him as "the heavenly man." And we can't assume that neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit never experienced anything similar to that moment that Jesus came to within Himself, not just because they are 'only' spirit but that they are just as much 'the person' of God, of Whom All Loved the One as much as the Other. There is no revelation of God without that revelation of relationship. These are the Top Model of the utmost love in relationship. Indeed, of all relationships, there is nothing lasting that can hold it together if God is not in it.

With all that said, one of the Names in reference to Jesus is given as "Everlasting Father" so, in that sense He is our Father in the same sense as Adam is the father of all-natural man.

Although I can agree with most of your post, several things I question. Firstly. if it were possible that you and your son had the same will IN ALL THINGS, that would make you one WITH him, but not him. There was not a chance that any of the Three wouldn't have peace with the redemptive plan because these Three that agree are one. They have the exact same mindset, just differing roles. Of the Three, only Jesus, the Word, experienced being " born of woman ", although the Father, in the Person of the Holy Spirit, dwelt in Him. It was" Jesus who increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man." Luke 2:52, this is why Jesus is our High Priest because, by experience, as stated before, He knows the feelings of our infirmities ( weaknesses ), the pull of the flesh. Of course Jesus was not a natural man, " But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." 1 Cor 2:24. Lastly, justice and mercy never kissed, it was mercy and grace, " For the wages of sin is death (justice), but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord ( mercy kissed grace ) Rom 6: 23.