Peace in the middle east
- Thread starter JTB
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Yes, MAGA may be a significant group of people, but at best they represent 10% of the nation and clearly 50% voted for Trump, so for every person who is "MAGA" there were 4 that voted for Trump that weren't.
They already had the right to govern themselves. Unless you mean getting rid of Hamas.
Then you will not be deceived into thinking evil is your friend
And the Holy Spirit does not need, nor want, our vote.
The problem comes when people think we can restrain evil with our vote.
All you have to do is read and understand prophesy to know that is a fantasy.
A dangerous fantasy
2 Timothy 2:3-4 Join me in suffering, like a good soldier of Christ Jesus. A soldier refrains from entangling himself in civilian affairs, in order to please the one who enlisted him.
?
Wow, so we should not have jobs? Obviously not, we are told to. We should not pay taxes? Obviously not, rather we are told to. We should not use the law courts? Obviously not, Paul did.
There are many ways to interpret this, saying that this verse means we don't vote in elections may be the most extreme I have ever heard. But, if that were the case there would be other verses to support this position since the New testament clearly tells us that no verse is of its own interpretation.
My interpretation is illustrated by a story about Larry Bird. He was practicing in his backyard (he had his own basketball court). He had told his wife not to disturb him unless it was important. Sports Illustrated called and wanted to do a cover story of Larry Bird so she went out to tell him. He rebuked her and said that was not important.
He was a soldier and he had given himself 100% to focusing on his job. He wasn't about to get caught up in hoopla and all kinds of other stuff that would distract him. He didn't care about the money or the fame, only focusing on being the best he could.
A similar story about Michael Jordan, he said one of his biggest regrets was doing the "Be Like Mike" advertising campaign and if he were to do it again he wouldn't have done that.
To me those stories make a whole lot more sense explaining that verse than trying to apply it to voting.
Hebrews 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Jesus is the forerunner, He ran at the head of the pack, we are following Him. Like He said, if you want to follow Him you must take up your cross.
7 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
Think of Abraham and his army slaughtering the kings. That is what just happened with this election and now with all these others. There are men of faith in the FBI, in the military, in the DOJ. As a result we are seeing the slaughter take place before Trump even takes office. The reason that Trump won was because men of faith like Abraham who were separate and apart from Sodom and Gomorrah deigned to enter the fray. They won the victory, all those too feckless to stand up for righteousness had no part in that victory. This is certainly one of the "days of Lot" that the Lord likened the rapture to and no doubt immediately precedes the rapture.
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness,
Everyone needs to remember that. First is "king of righteousness". Not "king of Love" or "King of inclusion" or whatever. If you don't have righteousness you will not have peace. Giving a tenth part of all is a genuine thanksgiving offering. Quite appropriate for the situation we find ourselves in, especially since Jeremiah 30 describes the rapture as giving the saints songs of thanksgiving.
and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
But as soon as people see that righteousness prevails then you will very quickly have peace.
Yeah, but there's a bigger issue to consider.
God warned us multiple times over thousands of years ago where the world will end up - in the hands of the antichrist. We know where this is headed.
NEVER did God ever say "now try and stop it". And indeed we cannot stop it. So, would voting for Hitler's opponent stop it? I'm going to say no.
What God DID say, repeatedly, is PREPARE FOR IT. So that is what we have done, moving far far away from population centers to a brick house with a dedicated safe room filled with supplies.
What God also said is that, in these times, many will will be deceived into abandoning their faith because they were not prepared for what is coming.
And what personal experience has taught me is that most people trying to stop something from happening DO NOT PREPARE FOR THAT THING HAPPENING.
So, given what we've been forewarned about by God, Given what God has told us to do about it, given what God has said will happen to those who do not follow that action,
Is voting for Hitler's opponent more important than keeping your salvation?
(And I know you're going to think that's a bit of a stretch, but again, follow the bouncing ball of God's prophesies and advice. It's not a direct step, but thru several steps, that is where we are at and where we are going.)
https://sites.google.com/view/whatwilltheendbelike/home
Australia had a Prime Minister who was utterly antichrist, who called a Christian Premier ("Premier" = state leader here) a Bible Bashing B* (someone whose parents were not married). That PM was leading the country to ruin economically, socially and religiously. We still suffer the ill effects of some of his policies.
Many Christians were much troubled and prayed about the situation. The PM remarkably was dismissed from office. There was another election which put an end to the madness.
I do not believe that Christians should be spectators. I also know that it is Christ that ensures my salvation, not whether or not I vote. How many people would have lived if Hitler had been defeated in the election? God takes no delight in the death of the wicked. His will is that all should be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.
I'm not saying that we should be marching in the streets and actively rebelling against authority, far from it. But we can vote and we can write to our government representatives. Christians have a voice at least for now. We are supposed to be salt and light. Salt is a preservative and light is truth. If we do and say nothing then we get what Satan wants and miss out on God's best.
Prophecy includes God's warnings as we see in the first chapters of Revelation. Jesus did not sit back and watch as the Laodiceans backslid and the Ephesian's love grew cold. Jesus warned us about the lying signs and wonders that would come to try and deceive the elect. We do not have to fall for them.
Something much worse than Hitler just did win the election. Unfortunately most of you won't realize it until its too late, if at all.
You can't say Trump in his first term didn't resolve America's problems.
While in the case of Harris she demo strated for 4 years she and Joe were the source of America's problem. Including repealing policies Trump employed to solve those problems made manifest by his predecessor.
That comment is utter baloney!!!! It's also a malicious lie. It takes away from the memory of those innocent people murdered in the Holocaust. This utter bunk is why Trump won. Because reasonable people know the difference between the truth and things being said just to be dramatic.
Trump had four years in office, explain what he did that was like Hitler.