One World religion

[10-22-27]

Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

Catholic Catechism pages 242-243, we read, “Mary the model of the Church: There is a close relationship between Mary’s spiritual motherhood and the motherhood of the Church. She is the pattern for all whose task in the Church is to assist in Jesus saving work. Every Pope, bishop, priest, deacon, religious, and lay person can look to Mary as the exemplar of fidelity to his or her special vocation of mediating salvation.”

Mohammad had a daughter whose name was Fatima. Muslims consider her to be a counterpart to Mary. Mary is Islam’s most revered woman, and Fatima is a close second. Fatima had been raised a Muslim but converted to Christianity. The Vatican claimed this was a sign, a miracle from God directed toward Christians worldwide.

Fatima means ‘The Shining One.’ In Portugal, a town named after her is dubbed as such for the namesake of Fatima Zahra.

On three separate occasions, three young children, Lucia Santos, and her two cousins, reported having seen an angel’s apparitions in the Ourem region of Portugal. These sightings continued until May 13, 1917. They claim to have witnessed the apparition of the Virgin Mary. Roman Catholics worldwide began praying their devotion to the town of Fatima. This apparition of the Virgin Mary was a significant public relations event between the Vatican and Mecca.

E-lo-him is how the Hebrews pronounce God’s name. Some believe the root word has been lost in Hebrew and currently exists only in Arabic as A-la-ha. Two of the oldest versions of the Bible, the Samaritan and Chaldean versions, retain the noun in its original form, A-la-him. The closeness of names alone could bring Islam and the Catholic Church to some mutual agreement.

Another possible connection is that Abraham plays a prominent role in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Muslims believe Abraham fulfilled all the commandments and trials and that Allah nurtured him throughout his lifetime. All three religions understand Abraham to be the father of both the Jews and the Arab nations. Jews by way of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Arabs, by way of Abraham, Ishmael, and Esau.”

The third reason is that Isa is the Arabic name for Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam but is not thought to be God. The Antichrist and Isa play essential roles in end-time prophecy. Islam’s Jesus is to usher in Islam as the world’s religion, and Islam’s Madi is to appear before Jesus.

Mahdi is the divinely guided One who is to establish the ideal Islamic state and fulfill the divine law. Then, Isa or their Jesus will come, and the last judgments will follow him. Islam is expecting their Mahdi soon, the twelfth Imam.

Will the Vatican and Islam come to some compromise? All they need is a trigger.

 

[Magenta]

Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

 

[10-22-27]

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Thanks, never saw that photo.

 

[Gideon300]

Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

Catholic Catechism pages 242-243, we read, “Mary the model of the Church: There is a close relationship between Mary’s spiritual motherhood and the motherhood of the Church. She is the pattern for all whose task in the Church is to assist in Jesus saving work. Every Pope, bishop, priest, deacon, religious, and lay person can look to Mary as the exemplar of fidelity to his or her special vocation of mediating salvation.”

Mohammad had a daughter whose name was Fatima. Muslims consider her to be a counterpart to Mary. Mary is Islam’s most revered woman, and Fatima is a close second. Fatima had been raised a Muslim but converted to Christianity. The Vatican claimed this was a sign, a miracle from God directed toward Christians worldwide.

Fatima means ‘The Shining One.’ In Portugal, a town named after her is dubbed as such for the namesake of Fatima Zahra.

On three separate occasions, three young children, Lucia Santos, and her two cousins, reported having seen an angel’s apparitions in the Ourem region of Portugal. These sightings continued until May 13, 1917. They claim to have witnessed the apparition of the Virgin Mary. Roman Catholics worldwide began praying their devotion to the town of Fatima. This apparition of the Virgin Mary was a significant public relations event between the Vatican and Mecca.

E-lo-him is how the Hebrews pronounce God’s name. Some believe the root word has been lost in Hebrew and currently exists only in Arabic as A-la-ha. Two of the oldest versions of the Bible, the Samaritan and Chaldean versions, retain the noun in its original form, A-la-him. The closeness of names alone could bring Islam and the Catholic Church to some mutual agreement.

Another possible connection is that Abraham plays a prominent role in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Muslims believe Abraham fulfilled all the commandments and trials and that Allah nurtured him throughout his lifetime. All three religions understand Abraham to be the father of both the Jews and the Arab nations. Jews by way of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Arabs, by way of Abraham, Ishmael, and Esau.”

The third reason is that Isa is the Arabic name for Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam but is not thought to be God. The Antichrist and Isa play essential roles in end-time prophecy. Islam’s Jesus is to usher in Islam as the world’s religion, and Islam’s Madi is to appear before Jesus.

Mahdi is the divinely guided One who is to establish the ideal Islamic state and fulfill the divine law. Then, Isa or their Jesus will come, and the last judgments will follow him. Islam is expecting their Mahdi soon, the twelfth Imam.

Will the Vatican and Islam come to some compromise? All they need is a trigger.

It is already a work in progress. There are "churches" of the "Chrislam" religion. The Catholic organisation has a joint Catholic/Muslim/Jewish meeting place. In Australia, a Pentecostal Bible college had presentations from Muslims. I believe this to be one of the great last days deceptions. It may be the "3 impure frog spirits" of Revelation 16:13

Shia Islam believes that Israel must be destroyed before the "Mahdi" comes. Hence Iran's intent to gain a nuclear weapon.

"Babylon" represents mixture and confusion. God's people are called to come out from that corrupt system because God's judgement is coming (Revelation chapter 18). For sure Catholicism (not all Catholics) is of Babylon, but so is much of the protestant tradition. The idea of one world church appeals to a lot of church people. I don't know how light can fellowship with darkness. Since much of Christendom has let the light go out, it's hardly surprising that it is willing to compromise.

 

[10-22-27]

It is already a work in progress. There are "churches" of the "Chrislam" religion. The Catholic organisation has a joint Catholic/Muslim/Jewish meeting place. In Australia, a Pentecostal Bible college had presentations from Muslims. I believe this to be one of the great last days deceptions. It may be the "3 impure frog spirits" of Revelation 16:13

Shia Islam believes that Israel must be destroyed before the "Mahdi" comes. Hence Iran's intent to gain a nuclear weapon.

"Babylon" represents mixture and confusion. God's people are called to come out from that corrupt system because God's judgement is coming (Revelation chapter 18). For sure Catholicism (not all Catholics) is of Babylon, but so is much of the protestant tradition. The idea of one world church appeals to a lot of church people. I don't know how light can fellowship with darkness. Since much of Christendom has let the light go out, it's hardly surprising that it is willing to compromise.

Great response, thanks.

 

[Gideon300]

Great response, thanks.

You are welcome. One of the benefits of retirement, I can look into things that interest me.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

It is the Antichrist who will establish a one world religion. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him [the Beast, the Antichrist], whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world... And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. (Rev 13:8,12). Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (2 Thess 2:4) At the same time they will worship "the dragon" (Satan) as noted in verse 4.

So False Christianity, Islam, and all false religions will come under the umbrella of the blasphemous and idolatrous religion of the Antichrist, whose image will be placed in the Holy Place in the future temple at Jerusalem. We do not know the details of how all these false religions will become a one world religion, but we have the broad outlines.

 

[10-22-27]

It is the Antichrist who will establish a one world religion. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him [the Beast, the Antichrist], whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world... And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. (Rev 13:8,12). Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (2 Thess 2:4) At the same time they will worship "the dragon" (Satan) as noted in verse 4.

So False Christianity, Islam, and all false religions will come under the umbrella of the blasphemous and idolatrous religion of the Antichrist, whose image will be placed in the Holy Place in the future temple at Jerusalem. We do not know the details of how all these false religions will become a one world religion, but we have the broad outlines.

Revelation 13:7, "And great power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." verse 5, "And power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (3 1/2 years)." Then his high priest, the second beast takes over.

Because the Christian community worldwide will be removed from the earth as will the Holy Spirit, what remains on earth will be the armies of the Islamic nations. It will be easy for the antichrist to be put into a position of power. After the rapture, America will be like a boxer wearing pillows for gloves. America will either join the antichrist or be pushed aside. And looking at the politicians running this country today, what I see for the most part is a bunch of gutless wonders. This is my opinion, and I'll hold to it.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

Would you like there to be one it's just I thought you weren't up on religion 🤔

 

[Magenta]

Thanks, never saw that photo.

Papal Statements on Islam

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[montana123]

Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

The Bible says the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts down the world which at the end time will be a coalition of the Caucasian led nations, and nations taken over by Caucasians.

Which they will mingle themselves with the seed of men that started in America, and will spread to the world at the time of the one world government.

Since the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion then the Roman Catholic Church will change along with her which their foundation is of the occult, and paganism anyway, and that is why they interpret scriptures the way they do, and the things they say.

Pope Francis elected 72% of the Cardinals so they would be in the majority position to elect the new Pope who will support the New Age Christ, and one world government, although the plan has been going on for a while which is by a slow implementation the same as America who is moving slowly to implement the new age movement in the world that allows all religions to be practiced there, and the top leaders of the Republican and Democrat party are working together which is the Hegel System the same as America and Russia have been working together.

Which the one world government will be a balance between democracy and communism, and the one world religious system will be a balance between atheist and spirituality, which they believe they are evolving to be spiritual, and their higher power the God of forces, or the power of nature, and all religions will be interpreted by the new age movement.

The new age movement is a Caucasian led plan to change the world to the current belief system of the world to the new age movement belief system.

When the New Age Christ starts working in the world he will push the agenda of the new age movement.

The world will be split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section who support the New Age Christ, and a one world government.

The Pope is siding with Islam to try to get them on board for a unified religious system, and to try to convince them that both Christianity, and Islam, are in the same boat, and have salvation.

Which the religion of Islam will give the unified religious system the most trouble so they want to try to convince them to go along like America was messing with the Arab nations to keep them separated so they could not come together for any power because they would be the most trouble concerning the one world government to come.

Which they wanted to come together as a defense against the European Union was coming together, and the US did not want that, and to try to change as many Arab government formats as possible for governments can be manipulated to change more than the people they rule over.

Pope John Paul 11 kissed the Quran, and said out of the religions that accept Abraham as their father have salvation who is Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, and Pope Francis says that anyone that does the will of God on earth has salvation.

But they really do not care about Islam but they must side with them to get them to comply for a one world government, which when the New Age Christ starts operating in the world he will push the agenda of the new age movement, the 10 sections of the world supporting him, and then they will go against Islam who will rebel when they find out the extent the world went to establish something contrary to what they want that they could not see before the New Age Christ started working in the world, but now it is too late to do anything now for the world is together with all that power.

The Pope wants a coalition with Islam but it is trickery the same as America uses the excuse to mess with the Arab nations but it is trickery.

Their plan is to go against Islam in due time but for now they want to side with them, and to try to hinder their power, for they will give them the most trouble so they need to lessen that, and keep them docile as much as possible until the one world government happens and the world is together then it will not matter if they become aggressive not realizing what the world really had in store for the operation of the world, and the world's power will be against them.

The Pope does not care about Islam but he is for the new age movement which the next Pope will openly claim the new age movement interpretation of the Bible as the correct one.

For the head of the unified religious system will have to be a person that claims the Bible that has much influence, and whose own roots are of a false christianity, and the occult, and paganism, which the devil is trying to deceive the world by a false christianity like the Roman Catholic Church was deceived by a false christianity.

For it is obvious that when the Roman Empire embraced Christianity they did not get rid of their occult, pagan ways, and it became their foundation for the interpreting of scriptures.

Like the new age movement, and Christian Science, and Scientology, and the Mormon Church which Joseph Smith had a belief that was not part of the Bible, and it became his foundation for interpreting of scriptures.

Which the 7 Churches in the book of Revelation is a prophesy of how the Church age would go in popular belief, and influence, and if any faults God always has people in the truth.

Which Church 2, Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Church 3, Rev 2:13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

Church 4, Rev 2:24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

Which the Roman Catholic Church was a popular influence for many years which they are of the occult, and paganism.

Church 5, Rev 3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Rev 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

Then the Protestant movement increased in popularity taking many away from the popular Roman Catholic Church influence.

Church 6, Rev 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Jesus did not have any rebuke for this Church which the Protestant movement restored much truth to the world which He said He would deliver them from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon the whole world, to try them that dwell on earth, because they are in the truth.

And there is only one temptation that can come upon the whole world at the same time which is when the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth, and try to establish an agenda on earth going against the truth of God, and the saints will know their operation is not of Him and will not follow them.

Church 7, Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked.

And then we get to the last Church age that is popular, and has much influence, which is now with the prosperity Gospel, and the many hypocrites that claim Christianity.

So the Roman Catholic Church will go along with the New Age Christ, and the new age movement, for their foundation is the occult, and paganism, which they will go along with the world for they are not rooted in the truth.

I mainly speak about the Pope, and Vatican, for the Catholics love God, and want to do right, but they do not understand the falseness that the Pope, and Vatican have that is keeping it quiet letting it come out slowly, and waiting for the New Age Christ in which the Pope will be the head of the unified religious system.

But there is no excuse for the Catholic should be able to see through the deception.

Many Catholics will stop following the Pope at that time but he will still be head of all the other religions so he will still have much influence.

 

[Needevidence]

Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

Catholic Catechism pages 242-243, we read, “Mary the model of the Church: There is a close relationship between Mary’s spiritual motherhood and the motherhood of the Church. She is the pattern for all whose task in the Church is to assist in Jesus saving work. Every Pope, bishop, priest, deacon, religious, and lay person can look to Mary as the exemplar of fidelity to his or her special vocation of mediating salvation.”

Mohammad had a daughter whose name was Fatima. Muslims consider her to be a counterpart to Mary. Mary is Islam’s most revered woman, and Fatima is a close second. Fatima had been raised a Muslim but converted to Christianity. The Vatican claimed this was a sign, a miracle from God directed toward Christians worldwide.

Fatima means ‘The Shining One.’ In Portugal, a town named after her is dubbed as such for the namesake of Fatima Zahra.

On three separate occasions, three young children, Lucia Santos, and her two cousins, reported having seen an angel’s apparitions in the Ourem region of Portugal. These sightings continued until May 13, 1917. They claim to have witnessed the apparition of the Virgin Mary. Roman Catholics worldwide began praying their devotion to the town of Fatima. This apparition of the Virgin Mary was a significant public relations event between the Vatican and Mecca.

E-lo-him is how the Hebrews pronounce God’s name. Some believe the root word has been lost in Hebrew and currently exists only in Arabic as A-la-ha. Two of the oldest versions of the Bible, the Samaritan and Chaldean versions, retain the noun in its original form, A-la-him. The closeness of names alone could bring Islam and the Catholic Church to some mutual agreement.

Another possible connection is that Abraham plays a prominent role in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Muslims believe Abraham fulfilled all the commandments and trials and that Allah nurtured him throughout his lifetime. All three religions understand Abraham to be the father of both the Jews and the Arab nations. Jews by way of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Arabs, by way of Abraham, Ishmael, and Esau.”

The third reason is that Isa is the Arabic name for Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam but is not thought to be God. The Antichrist and Isa play essential roles in end-time prophecy. Islam’s Jesus is to usher in Islam as the world’s religion, and Islam’s Madi is to appear before Jesus.

Mahdi is the divinely guided One who is to establish the ideal Islamic state and fulfill the divine law. Then, Isa or their Jesus will come, and the last judgments will follow him. Islam is expecting their Mahdi soon, the twelfth Imam.

Will the Vatican and Islam come to some compromise? All they need is a trigger.

some interesting points - I was discussing with my Muslim work colleague about Solomon song: 5:16 – מַחֲמַדִּ֑ים (Muhamadim)

But his adamant that Fatima never converted to Christianity – where did you get that from?

Can’t see anyone getting together until the return of Jesus and yes - Islam is seen as the biggest threat - sad people cannot live together agree or disagree. Sooner or later, it comes to Power, money, control etc... To much evil for people to live harmoniously see this clearly in the genocide going on at present

 

[10-22-27]

some interesting points - I was discussing with my Muslim work colleague about Solomon song: 5:16 – מַחֲמַדִּ֑ים (Muhamadim)

But his adamant that Fatima never converted to Christianity – where did you get that from?

Can’t see anyone getting together until the return of Jesus and yes - Islam is seen as the biggest threat - sad people cannot live together agree or disagree. Sooner or later, it comes to Power, money, control etc... To much evil for people to live harmoniously see this clearly in the genocide going on at present

Following is the article, written by Monsignor Charles Pope
This brings us to our second point; namely, why the Blessed Mother, in this 20th Century should have revealed herself in the significant little village of Fatima, so that to all future generations she would be known as “Our Lady of Fatima.” Since nothing ever happens out of Heaven except with a finesse of all details, I believe that the Blessed Virgin chose to be known as “Our Lady of Fatima” as pledge and a sign of hope to the Moslem people, and as an assurance that they, who show her so much respect, will one day accept her divine Son too.

Evidence to support these views is found in the historical fact that the Moslems occupied Portugal for centuries. At the time when they were finally driven out, the last Moslem chief had a beautiful daughter by the name of Fatima. A Catholic boy fell in love with her, and for him she not only stayed behind when the Moslems left, but even embraced the Faith. The young husband was so much in love with her that he changed the name of the town where he lived to Fatima. Thus, the very place where our Lady appeared in 1917 bears a historical connection to Fatima, the daughter of Mohammed.

 

[Cameron143]

Following is the article, written by Monsignor Charles Pope
This brings us to our second point; namely, why the Blessed Mother, in this 20th Century should have revealed herself in the significant little village of Fatima, so that to all future generations she would be known as “Our Lady of Fatima.” Since nothing ever happens out of Heaven except with a finesse of all details, I believe that the Blessed Virgin chose to be known as “Our Lady of Fatima” as pledge and a sign of hope to the Moslem people, and as an assurance that they, who show her so much respect, will one day accept her divine Son too.

Evidence to support these views is found in the historical fact that the Moslems occupied Portugal for centuries. At the time when they were finally driven out, the last Moslem chief had a beautiful daughter by the name of Fatima. A Catholic boy fell in love with her, and for him she not only stayed behind when the Moslems left, but even embraced the Faith. The young husband was so much in love with her that he changed the name of the town where he lived to Fatima. Thus, the very place where our Lady appeared in 1917 bears a historical connection to Fatima, the daughter of Mohammed.

Does Mary have powers to show herself? Independently of God? Don't angels serve this function?

 

[10-22-27]

Does Mary have powers to show herself? Independently of God? Don't angels serve this function?

Not sure if you're asking me the question, but I'll answer. No, Mary does not have the power to show herself. Do spirits exist? Yes! We have an example of that when the spirit of Samuel was called up by the witch of Endor. King Saul recognized him, and the prophesy Samuel brought with him from the grave was from God. How do I know that? Because every last word Samuel's spirit spoke concerning King Saul future came to pass.

 

[Cameron143]

Not sure if you're asking me the question, but I'll answer. No, Mary does not have the power to show herself. Do spirits exist? Yes! We have an example of that when the spirit of Samuel was called up by the witch of Endor. King Saul recognized him, and the prophesy Samuel brought with him from the grave was from God. How do I know that? Because every last word Samuel's spirit spoke concerning King Saul future came to pass.

I believe as you do. But he was summoned. And OT. Mary would be present with the Lord at her passing.
Why wouldn't God just send an angel as he has done in every other instance?

 

[10-22-27]

I believe as you do. But he was summoned. And OT. Mary would be present with the Lord at her passing.
Why wouldn't God just send an angel as he has done in every other instance?

He didn't! It's funny how Satan uses young people to do his will. The girls who saw the vision were young, Joseph Smith of the Mormons was a young man, Taz Russel of Jehovah's Witnesses was a young man, a nine-year-old girl jump started the Pentecostal, tongues, healing, snake handling movements sometime in the late 1800's. I almost forgot Mohammad.

 

[Niki7]

He didn't! It's funny how Satan uses young people to do his will. The girls who saw the vision were young, Joseph Smith of the Mormons was a young man, Taz Russel of Jehovah's Witnesses was a young man, a nine-year-old girl jump started the Pentecostal, tongues, healing, snake handling movements sometime in the late 1800's. I almost forgot Mohammad.

So a 9 yr old girl is responsible for Pentecostalism? Huh. And here I thought it began in the book of Acts.

Pentecostals do not handle snakes etc as per your overzealous summation above. There are nutjobs in just about every group and Pentecostalism is not exception. That does not represent the majority. What is even more funny, is how you lump speaking in tongues with questionable activities such as poisonous snake handling.

ps: I am not Pentecostal and do not actually hold to how they 'hold church' but your remarks are truly missing many facts

 

[Eli1]

He didn't! It's funny how Satan uses young people to do his will. The girls who saw the vision were young, Joseph Smith of the Mormons was a young man, Taz Russel of Jehovah's Witnesses was a young man, a nine-year-old girl jump started the Pentecostal, tongues, healing, snake handling movements sometime in the late 1800's. I almost forgot Mohammad.

So this is what you meant when you first said that you're "interesting" when you first joined.
I gotcha you now.
With these gifts that you have you should have started a cult by now.

 

[Niki7]

So this is what you meant when you first said that you're "interesting" when you first joined.
I gotcha you now.
With these gifts that you have you should have started a cult by now.

Do you know he hasn't? jking