Once saved always saved ?

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Once you get saved does that mean your always saved ? I ask myself sometimes like Am i evil or do I belong to god or will I even go to heaven.Then on top of that I get these thoughts that tell me why be gods slave.Its really crazy.I don't know how to deal with this.I get shots from all angles ? If I got saved at a young age then walked away.Then came back and started giving effort.Like not doing what I used to do.going to church 3 or 4days a week.Not listening to degrading music.Praying to god.Getting on my knees crying out for help.I did all this at one point.Does this mean that god was working inside of me at one point ?
 
I personally beleive as long as you are trying to follow god with your whole heart than you are fine. Even if you are messing up.
 
I'm going to jump in here because I think this is an issue with huge implications on one's spiritual walk and how they see the gospel.

First, I don't think we can become a Christian or "get saved" and then live any way we want. As Paul said, "How can we who died to sin still live in it?" (Rom. 6:2).

Second, I don't think we can lose our salvation. I believe part of the promise of the new covenant that we have with Christ is that God will keep us. He will preserve us and, thus, we will persevere.

What's my basis for saying this?
Jeremiah 32:40 I will make with them an everlasting covenant, that I will not turn away from doing good to them. And I will put the fear of me in their hearts, that they may not turn from me.
Jeremiah 32:40 seems very clear, we are kept by the providence of God. The promise in making the new covenant is that God will change our hearts, such that we will not turn from him. But I think Romans 5:8-10 gives us an even stronger argument than Jeremiah:
Romans 5:8–10 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.
Paul is using a type of argument here that has a technical name in logic. It's called the a fortiori and it argues from the lesser to the greater. In this case, since we have obtained x, then we can be even more certain in obtaining y. Paul looks at something that is true of believers now (justification, reconciliation) and argues that because of this, our obtaining a future state (future salvation) is even more certain.

But if we can lose our salvation, I don't see how anyone can make sense out of Paul's argument. For if we can lose our salvation, then we cannot be certain that, having been reconciled to God presently, we may not lose that reconciliation and fail to be "saved by [Christ's] life." Thus, Paul's argument would be obviously false.

There are many other verses that I think I could marshal to support this view. And I'm well aware of all the verses that people utilize to argue that we can lose our salvation. I think I have good responses to those arguments (and personally I've never seen good responses to the sort of argument I've just given above), and if necessary I may come back and give those responses (if I have time).

However, I'd like to add that I think the idea that we need to do good works in order to keep our salvation can be damaging in one of two ways. Before I mention what those are, someone might object to the idea that we "do good works" in order to keep salvation. For instance, my brother believes that we can lose our salvation, but he objects to me casting it in these terms. He says what we need to keep is faith. However, ask him what faith looks like. He will take you to James where he talks about works. Ask him if one can have faith and live in adultery or live any life characterized by sin. He will say no. So, ultimately faith ends up meaning faithfulness. Faithfulness in what? In being a good person (=doing good works). So either way you try to spin, it will ultimately boil down to doing enough good works (or being a good enough person) to keep your salvation. So no sense trying to sugarcoat it and say we need to keep faith when ultimately this ends up being the same as doing good works and being a good enough person.

Now getting back to the point, this can be damaging in one of two ways. Either a person may fall into despair, recognizing how sinful they are and that they will never keep their salvation if it is up to them, or a person may become prideful and blind to sin, thinking they are such a good person when in fact they aren't. Or there is a third route: a person may simply hold to the belief in a way that isn't very meaningful to them. They may believe that we can lose our salvation simply as theoretical matter, never letting it connect to their life. This is how many people hold to the doctrine that we can lose our salvation, but this isn't too surprising since this is how many people hold to god-belief anyway.

While I think each response is misguided, since it stems from a misguided belief, the first response (despair) is the proper one (in so far as one can properly respond to a misguided belief, short of abandoning that belief). For if we can lose our salvation then we truly cannot keep it because we truly are wretched sinners. And so the person who puts his hope in himself to keep his salvation (and make no mistake, anyone who believes we can lose our salvation must put their hope in themselves) will find themselves in a state of despair and without hope. The second and third responses are very dangerous because both involve the person being self-deceived to not recognize the gravity of the situation.
 
Ephesians 2:8-10



8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.


A gift is recieving something you have no worked for. If God would take back something then it was NEVER a gift in the first place! It would be the same as us working for salvation. But thats not all


10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
We were created for Good works. When you recieve salvation there should be a change in your life. If someone says they got saved and do not change any bit whatsoever it could be they were NEVER saved in the first place.


Final point.
Salvation is forever but there is evidence of salvation in peoples lifes. If theres no evidence of a changed person then....?
 
I didnt read most of those posts because they were too long lol but I think they were saying what i was saying.

Like basically

If a Murderer gets "saved" but then doesnt change then is he really "saved?"
No not in what I believe

But what about someone that had many good years w ith god but then turned their back on him?
This should have been a major decision if they were really going with him

Idk lol

This stuff is kinda sad.
 
WE can never know if someone was a genuine Convert. But by there actions will give us a idea. But if the convert was genuine then there going to heaven. only them and God knows