Notice Judas was even about money because he betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver, and then hung himself.
He was not saved, Jesus called him out in the begining (John 6) He was allowed to walk with Jesus because God was going to use himExactly! Judas was saved and then fell away like many are doing today.
If he had not been saved in the beginning, it would have been a sin for Jesus to be yoked with him as God's Word says to not be unequally yoke with unbelievers.... Jesus would not be violating God's standards by having someone on staff that was not saved.
It was later on when Judas started listening to the devil, God's Word was choked out of him, and he quit baring fruit unto the Lord and started bearing fruit unto satan.
Judas is one of 2 people God's Word says were possessed by satan personally and in satan himself entered him and possed him. The next guy this happens to will be the anti-christ
AmenNotice Judas was even about money because he betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver, and then hung himself.
Yes many turned away from following the Lord.
However, Judas and the other eleven continued to follow Him.
His sheep who become lost must repent and return to the Lord, just as anyone who was never one of His sheep.
Grace is unmerited favor we do not earn our salvation. It is a gift that we either accept or reject.
Show one verse that said judas was saved ? Jesus said he was lostJudas was a disciple and then was promoted to an Apostle of Jesus Christ, then he became a traitor.
Judas the son of James, and Judas Iscariot who also became a traitor. Luke 6:16
For Judas to become a traitor he first must have been a legitimate follower and Apostle of Jesus Christ.
Judas was predestined to reign with Christ and the other eleven in the age to come.
So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Matthew 19:28
- you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Please provide chapter and verse that says Judas was never saved?
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He was not saved, Jesus called him out in the begining (John 6) He was allowed to walk with Jesus because God was going to use him
Judas was a theif from the begining.
Show one verse that said judas was saved ? Jesus said he was lost
New flash. Jesus hung around a lot of sinners. tax collectors. harlots, Drunks. Many disciples followed him. Yet as jesus said in John 6. They did nto believe. And even called Judas the devil.If that's true then Jesus was unequally yoked with an unbeliever... which is a sin.
News flash for ya... Jesus did not sin!
If that's true then Jesus was unequally yoked with an unbeliever... which is a sin.
News flash for ya... Jesus did not sin!
God did not force Judas to allow satan to come inside of him and posses him... Judas had a choice and God simply knew before hand that he was going to make the wrong choice
Just like the Bible teaches Jesus was slain before the foundation of the world because He can see far in the future and He knew Adam and Eve would sin... doesn't mean God had anything to do with making them sin.
He just planned ahead.
Not true. If it was then it would have been a sin for Jesus to bring Him on staff.
2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Jesus does not violate God's Word.
Yes, he "became lost" but was not lost in the beginning... Peter "became lost" when he denied the Lord.
The difference is, Peter repented and came back to the Lord and Judas did not.
Luke 6:16
Judas the son of James, and Judas Iscariot who also became a traitor.
This tells us Judas was not always lost.
Show where he was ever saved.
I think Judas was one of those that only tasted never surrendered
Your translation is in error. Here is what is written in the King James Bible: And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor. He already was the traitor from the very beginning, and Christ had already said that one of them which He had chosen was "a devil" (KJV). Yet he was chosen to fulfil all prophecies. And once again we see how the modern translations attempt to mislead people.Judas the son of James, and Judas Iscariot who also became a traitor.
Your translation is in error. Here is what is written in the King James Bible: And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor. He already was the traitor from the very beginning, and Christ had already said that one of them which He had chosen was "a devil" (KJV). Yet he was chosen to fulfil all prophecies. And once again we see how the modern translations attempt to mislead people.
And people choose them because they already agree with what they believe. It's easier to find a different version than wrestle with truth.Your translation is in error. Here is what is written in the King James Bible: And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor. He already was the traitor from the very beginning, and Christ had already said that one of them which He had chosen was "a devil" (KJV). Yet he was chosen to fulfil all prophecies. And once again we see how the modern translations attempt to mislead people.
New flash. Jesus hung around a lot of sinners. tax collectors. harlots, Drunks. Many disciples followed him. Yet as jesus said in John 6. They did nto believe. And even called Judas the devil.
Judas was not saved, He walked with Christ to be part of his army when he freed them from Rome, not as his savior..
Your translation is in error. Here is what is written in the King James Bible: And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor. He already was the traitor from the very beginning, and Christ had already said that one of them which He had chosen was "a devil" (KJV). Yet he was chosen to fulfil all prophecies. And once again we see how the modern translations attempt to mislead people.
Who said anything about Jesus committing a sin? That is what you are trying to suggest, but that is just nonsense. Whatever Christ did, He did fully in righteousness. We simply need to stick to what is in Scripture. But we may not necessarily understand everything. That should not be an issue.OK, so you too believe Jesus committed a sin by having Judas come walk with Him in His ministry.
Is this all you have?OK, so you believe Jesus committed a sin by having Judas come walk with Him in His ministry.
That's too bad... for you.
OK, so you too believe Jesus committed a sin by having Judas come walk with Him in His ministry.
That's also too bad... for you.
We simply need to stick to what is in Scripture.
A total misapplication of this verse to Christ.2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?