Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked
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Oh, that's the beauty of Truth. You can present it kind and gentle but the one receiving will feel like it is the harshest thing ever said to them.
If I may. I wouldn't say I placed myself in Christ as much as I would submit my care into my rescuers arm. I 'reached" for God, even if flailing blindly rather than give up with no hope. Would you consider that "placing myself in Him'? or more accurately "placing myself in His care and He then pulled me into His bosom?
In the land of the blind, even a one-eyed man is king.
Yes, that is my experience as well.
Often in response those in the control of their carnal nature and for whom the truth is unpalatable become aggressive and seek to silence that truth. And those who live it and love to share it.
Jesus prepared us for that. Our love is not overcome.
Great. So now you can start posting here. And I will start bookmarking those posts of yours which I find to be examples of outstanding Biblical scholarship.It's worth a great deal.I'm obviously new and therefore have few posts here.
Further, it is priceless to know it takes very little to cause you to resort to disparaging remarks in an effort to dismiss the perspective of those you find yourself unequipped to meet on equal ground in a civil discourse.
Thank you.
I appreciate someone being honest in their demonstration of character when discussing the sacred words of God.
It assists on my end to know to whom I am speaking when discussing the true gospel of Jesus the Christ
Its a win-win bro. Thanks for participating.
Just to let you know, fine Bible scholars have noted the stark transition between Matthew 12 and Matthew 13.It's worth a great deal.
Further, it is priceless to know it takes very little to cause you to resort to disparaging remarks in an effort to dismiss the perspective of those you find yourself unequipped to meet on equal ground in a civil discourse.
Thank you.
I appreciate someone being honest in their demonstration of character when discussing the sacred words of God.
It assists on my end to know to whom I am speaking when discussing the true gospel of Jesus the Christ
Matthew 13:1 being the key verse in this transition.
Mat 13:1
On the same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the sea.
And what exactly is your definition of "bonafide Bible scholars"? Would you dismission the Galilean apostles as "unlearned"?
Thank you for that. However, I would not rank myself as one worthy of such a label. I'm but a blessed woman taking life one step at a time in the light of God and wherever it may lead.
And sometimes I am also blessed to find like minded souls to share with on that journey.
May the blessings of the Father surround you and yours.
I don't believe Galilean apostles publish today so to qualify as those to whom my comments pertained in these contemporary times.
Thanks that really warms my heart. Blessing to your pilgrimage and welcome to CC sister....
Being in Christ, it seems to me, isn't so much something we experience as much as it is something that is done for us. It's more of a position we are placed into.
Whether one believes God acted sovereignly or in response to us is immaterial. We are placed in Christ by God. It isn't something we do or can do. If we don't possess the ability to be placed in Christ, neither do we possess the power to take ourselves out.
Does God possess such ability? Sure. But I've never heard anyone argue God kicks us out.
Brother, my grandparents would be considered uneducated. My grandfather could not read, my taught herself to read by reading the Bible. I believe we can understand the Word just as it is written. When the Word says "believe on Lord and you will be saved" I don't think they had someone there to explain the hermenrutics of it. They took God at His Word believed and were saved. It is. just.that. simple. Behold I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me” We don't believe like the Catholics, that we need someone else to read the Word and tell us what's in there. We don't need a Bible scholar to tell us what the Word says. I think a great deal of my pastor, but I don't need him to interpret the Word for me. I believe I can read it for myself and understand it. I'm against deeper learning, reading books and commentaries. But I don't need that to know what the Word is saying. They didn't even have the Bible at certain periods of time, but people were still saved by faith and gained their reward without a Bible scholar, hermeneutics or a Bible collage and best selling books.
Now you are judging. And that's the fork in road we come to. If someone sins in a major way you would say " they were never saved in the first place." You're making a judgement call. I had shared a pastor, whose ministry I sat under, left his wife for his music minister. He has married her and continues to harass is actual wife saying she is the one to blame for his affair. I would say he has turned away from the truth, back slidden. You would say he was never saved in the first place. But that is a judgement call. The Word says you can turn back, you can look back and can stop following and take your own path.
Think about about what you said for a second. If you confess and don't actually change your mind about it, is your lip service of any value to God? If you actually do change your mind about sin and, of course, change your ways as well, confessing your sin to God, isn't that the heart of what confession is?
There is no difference between confession and repentance. God already knows what you did. What God is looking for is your return to walking in the light like John says. Confession is intended to be used for those who are ready to forsake whatever sin it is they are genuinely repenting of.
1 John 1
7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
I'm talking about difficult contentious passages dealing with what some people call "losing your salvation" or the equivalent. This was obvious......as I specified passages earlier.
The simplicity of the Gospel message of salvation can be understood by a child.
Evidently you failed to comprehend the difference?
Attending church is a public confession that you know you are full of sin and your works can never justify you before God
i agree that attending church is not equivalent to repentance. Many give a false confession & continue in vanity, never truly repenting.