Old fashioned discipline
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LIke bootcamp? Dont know never had it.
Some people say its good, but as they grow older they usually end up being a bit sadistic and bullying themselves. I dont think its much fun being a military wife, by all accounts. Or the child of someone who asks you to call them 'sir'.
But then theres the other extreme where anything goes and you become your parents drug mules.
Some people say its good, but as they grow older they usually end up being a bit sadistic and bullying themselves. I dont think its much fun being a military wife, by all accounts. Or the child of someone who asks you to call them 'sir'.
But then theres the other extreme where anything goes and you become your parents drug mules.
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So you actually cleared nothing up whatsoever. You simply repeated the same vague terms you used before.
But the term "strict discipline", to me, has more negative connotations than positive.
Discipline is undoubtedly necessary but being overly strict tends to lead to rebellion in the long run, rather than obediance.
Children should be raised with a foundation of love and security. This actually makes discipline easier.
And when discipline is administered it should not be done out of anger, but should be fair. And also consistent.
Also understanding each child as an individual also works best. Some children can get an iron fist and not budge whereas others merely need to be looked at with a disapproving look to burst into tears. Treating them the same won't be effective.
There are smarter, healthier and more effective ways of dealing with raising children than an iron fist. Rarely is that actually discipline, anyways, but a persons desire to be in control.
But the term "strict discipline", to me, has more negative connotations than positive.
Discipline is undoubtedly necessary but being overly strict tends to lead to rebellion in the long run, rather than obediance.
Children should be raised with a foundation of love and security. This actually makes discipline easier.
And when discipline is administered it should not be done out of anger, but should be fair. And also consistent.
Also understanding each child as an individual also works best. Some children can get an iron fist and not budge whereas others merely need to be looked at with a disapproving look to burst into tears. Treating them the same won't be effective.
There are smarter, healthier and more effective ways of dealing with raising children than an iron fist. Rarely is that actually discipline, anyways, but a persons desire to be in control.
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What are you disciplining others for?
Self-discipline is important based on a healthy self-esteem and humbleness as to our own faults and weaknesses.
To discipline against a set of Godly rules - teaching good over evil, and love over hating., sharing over selfishness, etc etc.
But in today's un-Godliness and free society discipline is not politically correct.
But for us Christians it is morally correct.
1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise)
3 That it may be well with thee, and thou may live long on the earth.
4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
Ephesians 6:
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Ephesians 5:
Self-discipline is important based on a healthy self-esteem and humbleness as to our own faults and weaknesses.
To discipline against a set of Godly rules - teaching good over evil, and love over hating., sharing over selfishness, etc etc.
But in today's un-Godliness and free society discipline is not politically correct.
But for us Christians it is morally correct.
1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise)
3 That it may be well with thee, and thou may live long on the earth.
4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
Ephesians 6:
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Ephesians 5:
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We can use the word discipline in several different ways.
1. We can use it to mean "to punish" someone.
"My son johnny didn't clean his room so I had to discipline him."
2. We can use the word to mean "self control".
"I'm trying to have more discipline in my Bible study; I'm trying to read 3 chapters a day."
HOW are you using the word discipline?
I don't understand the question.
1. We can use it to mean "to punish" someone.
"My son johnny didn't clean his room so I had to discipline him."
2. We can use the word to mean "self control".
"I'm trying to have more discipline in my Bible study; I'm trying to read 3 chapters a day."
HOW are you using the word discipline?
I don't understand the question.
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5 And have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons? “My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
nor be weary when reproved by him.
6 For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives.”
7 It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline?
8 If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons.
9 Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to
the Father of spirits and live?
10 For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness.
11 For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who
have been trained by it.
Hebrews 12: (ESV)
nor be weary when reproved by him.
6 For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives.”
7 It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline?
8 If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons.
9 Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to
the Father of spirits and live?
10 For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness.
11 For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who
have been trained by it.
Hebrews 12: (ESV)
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I think because my mother was a bi~polar/schizophrenic that heard voices and ghosts and believed all boys were bad and it was the parents job to beat the hell out of us, Deny us to have friends and lock us indoors in order that we become good and not to associate with other bad boy's. You need to define old fashioned discipline. Because I'm not sure what that means.
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@Subhumanoidal Love what you've written, so great 
To me, discipline means teaching out of a place of love. I've seen many people with the mentality that children are mini adults and just assume they know things. They need to be taught and taught in a way that is specific for them as an individual with their age in mind. There's so many developmental stages children go through and require guidance from the parent as their brain continues to develop over the years.
Knowing how to discipline a child best, will come from actually spending time with them and knowing your child. Spending time with them not out of obligation but out of love and enjoyment of being in their presence. I have two children and one my favourite times
is at night, when I lay on each of their beds and they talk my ear off with their stories, I love hearing what they have to say.
From my experience with my own children and also working with children, their emotions can go from cool calm and collected to on the floor kicking and screaming in a matter of seconds. As a parent, remaining calm in such times can prove to be a challenge, I've had my moments, where I've had to walk away to regroup before addressing the situation. For me, exercising patience and self control in actions and words is so vital especially when considering I'm a Christian. What influence am I having and what picture of Jesus am I portraying if I were to respond out of frustration or anger. Jesus said for the little children to come to Him and not to forbid them, His love for children surpassed the carnal adult mind of pride and demonstrated how we should live in humility. The little children wanted to go to Him. If all children see is a parent that demands obedience, that can have a negative impact on how they view God.
When in public some parents may have the tendency to discipline in a stricter way. They slap the child because the child is being embarrassing, they grind their teeth and mutter threats under their breath in a desperate attempt to "shut" the child up This type of behaviour really saddens my heart and I've seen it many times especially at shopping centres. It comes from a fear of others opinions.
In my opinion children should be free to express themselves but may need help with managing or coping with certain emotions that can arise. As far as control goes with discipline, I think of it in a different way from manipulation, I think of it as the adult being in control of their own emotions so they can be of assistance to the child that is having difficulty deciphering what they're feeling, especially young children.
I seriously could go on because I love children lol but I think I've said enough. Actually one more thing, never be afraid of listening to what a child has to say to you, if you humble yourself you may be pleasantly surprised at the simplicity of things they too can teach.
God bless you
To me, discipline means teaching out of a place of love. I've seen many people with the mentality that children are mini adults and just assume they know things. They need to be taught and taught in a way that is specific for them as an individual with their age in mind. There's so many developmental stages children go through and require guidance from the parent as their brain continues to develop over the years.
Knowing how to discipline a child best, will come from actually spending time with them and knowing your child. Spending time with them not out of obligation but out of love and enjoyment of being in their presence. I have two children and one my favourite times
is at night, when I lay on each of their beds and they talk my ear off with their stories, I love hearing what they have to say.
From my experience with my own children and also working with children, their emotions can go from cool calm and collected to on the floor kicking and screaming in a matter of seconds. As a parent, remaining calm in such times can prove to be a challenge, I've had my moments, where I've had to walk away to regroup before addressing the situation. For me, exercising patience and self control in actions and words is so vital especially when considering I'm a Christian. What influence am I having and what picture of Jesus am I portraying if I were to respond out of frustration or anger. Jesus said for the little children to come to Him and not to forbid them, His love for children surpassed the carnal adult mind of pride and demonstrated how we should live in humility. The little children wanted to go to Him. If all children see is a parent that demands obedience, that can have a negative impact on how they view God.
When in public some parents may have the tendency to discipline in a stricter way. They slap the child because the child is being embarrassing, they grind their teeth and mutter threats under their breath in a desperate attempt to "shut" the child up
This type of behaviour really saddens my heart and I've seen it many times especially at shopping centres. It comes from a fear of others opinions.In my opinion children should be free to express themselves but may need help with managing or coping with certain emotions that can arise. As far as control goes with discipline, I think of it in a different way from manipulation, I think of it as the adult being in control of their own emotions so they can be of assistance to the child that is having difficulty deciphering what they're feeling, especially young children.
I seriously could go on because I love children lol but I think I've said enough. Actually one more thing, never be afraid of listening to what a child has to say to you, if you humble yourself you may be pleasantly surprised at the simplicity of things they too can teach.
God bless you
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I had an incident at my school library yesterday where two boys had to be disicplined for shouting in the library and causing a ruckus. Books were thrown on the floor and chairs tipped over, it was a mess! I had to close the library and called the Principal in and she had a chat with them where they apolgised to me and i told them not to do it again and why it wasnt a good idea to shout in the library. They were very embarassed to be singled out but admited they broke the rules. I had spent all morning getting the library in order, the minute my back was turned at lunch hour I had children tearing round making a mess and being noisy!
I said i was very disappointed in them. they could shout outside but not in the library where people are reading. The discipline is not they are banned from the library but am going to lock it after 3 minutes of lunchtime opening so that those there can read in peace.
If there was old fashioned disicpline they probably would have got a smack or cane on the bum. Or detention. They couldnt clean up the mess they made after they left because i had helpers cleaning up messes. But very hard when you have over 30 children of all differnt ages, all in uniforms that often you cant tell who is the ones misbehaving and the ones that are behaving. It can be mayhem. The other children did report them to the principal as I didnt want to accuse every child of being bad and shut the library for good.
I said i was very disappointed in them. they could shout outside but not in the library where people are reading. The discipline is not they are banned from the library but am going to lock it after 3 minutes of lunchtime opening so that those there can read in peace.
If there was old fashioned disicpline they probably would have got a smack or cane on the bum. Or detention. They couldnt clean up the mess they made after they left because i had helpers cleaning up messes. But very hard when you have over 30 children of all differnt ages, all in uniforms that often you cant tell who is the ones misbehaving and the ones that are behaving. It can be mayhem. The other children did report them to the principal as I didnt want to accuse every child of being bad and shut the library for good.
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Hi Ole,
First welcome to CC!
When u posted this in the family forum, i thought u were referring to parental discipline.. and be alluding to spanking. Like some here who replied with reference to Proverbs, there are many passages that speak of discipline in these books. While u say it is no longer common or popular in Norway, that may be the case in many other countries too.
Prov. 13.24 (He who witholds his rod...) is one unpopular verse, perhaps esp. to those who did not grow up with spanking. But Prov. 19.18 and 29.17 both show the positive effect of correcting and disciplining our children. We grew up with parents who spanked using a belt or slipper. Both parents were very controlled and would first get our attention, usually isolate us in their room. They explained why they had to do it, allow us to say sorry, and spank not angrily. As far as i remember, that was how they disciplined us.
Today, many say they would never spank their own kids even if or because they themselves were spanked. For whatever reasons, that is up to them, but God's word says it is perfectly alright to spank. This is what i think.
First welcome to CC!
When u posted this in the family forum, i thought u were referring to parental discipline.. and be alluding to spanking. Like some here who replied with reference to Proverbs, there are many passages that speak of discipline in these books. While u say it is no longer common or popular in Norway, that may be the case in many other countries too.
Prov. 13.24 (He who witholds his rod...) is one unpopular verse, perhaps esp. to those who did not grow up with spanking. But Prov. 19.18 and 29.17 both show the positive effect of correcting and disciplining our children. We grew up with parents who spanked using a belt or slipper. Both parents were very controlled and would first get our attention, usually isolate us in their room. They explained why they had to do it, allow us to say sorry, and spank not angrily. As far as i remember, that was how they disciplined us.
Today, many say they would never spank their own kids even if or because they themselves were spanked. For whatever reasons, that is up to them, but God's word says it is perfectly alright to spank. This is what i think.
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