OK Trumps back in , now what ?

[cv5]

@financialjuice
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[NightTwister]

It is basic law, you cannot use my signature on a legal document without me knowing and approving, otherwise it is fraud.

The Presidential pardon power isn't limited by a law. It's absolute. This is clearly a separation of powers issue that Congress cannot limit with a law.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Trump is back in, now what?

The different perspectives should be interesting.

IMO, promises will be made and almost none will be kept and he will keep getting demonic spiritual help as he always seems to do.

 

[mailmandan]

Trump is back in, now what?
IMO, promises will be made and almost none will be kept and he will keep getting demonic spiritual help as he always seems to do.

Are you talking about Trump or Biden? As for Kamala Harris..

 

[ZNP]

The Presidential pardon power isn't limited by a law. It's absolute. This is clearly a separation of powers issue that Congress cannot limit with a law.

Yes, and what about the Chief of Staff pardon power? Biden didn't sign himself and he wasn't even there when the autopen signed it. So, who authorized it to be signed? That is the question.

 

[ZNP]

Are you talking about Trump or Biden? As for Kamala Harris..

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Well at least she conceded that those who worship Jesus at Lord should be going to Trump's rally and not hers.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I know you stand with Trump and I respect that but IMO Trump is the worst president in history.

 

[mailmandan]

I know you stand with Trump and I respect that but IMO Trump is the worst president in history.

Based on what? Tell that to my 401K which nearly doubled under his last term.

 

[mailmandan]

I worked with a guy who had $180,000 in his TSP when Trump started his last term and by the end of his last term my co-worker had $680,000 in his TSP! He put all of his money in the S fund and it really paid off under Trump. I wasn't willing to put all of my eggs in one basket but still made wonderful gains under Trump.

 

[ZNP]

I know you stand with Trump and I respect that but IMO Trump is the worst president in history.

IMO it is too soon to determine that. Now is the time to be praying for him, not judging his legacy.

 

[NightTwister]

Yes, and what about the Chief of Staff pardon power? Biden didn't sign himself and he wasn't even there when the autopen signed it. So, who authorized it to be signed? That is the question.

Once again, there is no requirement to "sign." The announcement in the press conference was sufficient to pardon. The Constitution doesn't specify how the pardons must be done, and Congress can't force any requirements (e.g. sign a paper document) on the Executive. The fact that there are signed pardons doesn't mean they are required.

 

[ZNP]

Once again, there is no requirement to "sign." The announcement in the press conference was sufficient to pardon. The Constitution doesn't specify how the pardons must be done, and Congress can't force any requirements (e.g. sign a paper document) on the Executive. The fact that there are signed pardons doesn't mean they are required.

Sure, a Prison warden will release a prisoner because he heard someone say there was a press conference. Your credibility just hit 0, the only way to recharge that is with a government law that says what you just said. Also, why not include the law that says the President is allowed to pardon people for future crimes they might commit or be charged with as well as past crimes.

 

[NightTwister]

Sure, a Prison warden will release a prisoner because he heard someone say there was a press conference. Your credibility just hit 0, the only way to recharge that is with a government law that says what you just said. Also, why not include the law that says the President is allowed to pardon people for future crimes they might commit or be charged with as well as past crimes.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Based on what? Tell that to my 401K which nearly doubled under his last term.

Hopefully that will work out.Time will tell but I don't think it looks good further down the road.

 

[cv5]

The Presidential pardon power isn't limited by a law. It's absolute. This is clearly a separation of powers issue that Congress cannot limit with a law.

Of course this power is limited: to that of the President himself.
Not his staffers running the autopen.

Bribem was not of sound mind thru any of this BTW.

 

[ZNP]

Of course this power is limited: to that of the President himself.
Not his staffers running the autopen.

Bribem was not of sound mind thru any of this BTW.

So not just anyone in the Whitehouse with a bag of white powder can issue a pardon. But what about the pardon itself, can they issue golden pardons to be used at ant time in the future?