OK Trumps back in , now what ?

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Perhaps what I said was not understood by others, I don't doubt that gold is now being hyped and will likely double in price this year (next twelve months), but I am saying that mainly saps will be buying it when it hits 6,000. try looking at a historical graph of gold in the 80s
Only saps will be buying gold knowing full well that it will "double in price this year (next twelve months)" you say?

OK man whatever floats your boat.
 

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Only saps will be buying gold knowing full well that it will "double in price this year (next twelve months)" you say?

OK man whatever floats your boat.
You just twisted what I said
 

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All the cliches apply to the stock market. "If you don't know who the sap is at the poker table then it is you".

If you think the news manipulates people it is nothing compared to the stock market. These guys aren't gambling small time, a million dollar pot is nothing, they laugh at that. Pump and dump is not simply for the mafia.

Wake up, the movie "The Big short" documented how corrupt the entire system is from the rating agencies to the big banks to the government.

You think it is any different with the gold and silver? The Bible says that you will cast your gold and silver into the street. Why would you do that? The claim is that gold and silver never loses its worth, so why would people cast it into the street? My guess is that it will be illegal to hold it. They did that before, they'll do it again.

Do you really think the same evil genius that is plotting the mark of the beast hasn't considered a barter society and gold and silver?

At best it is a stop gap that will be useful for a few months after the rapture until Antichrist can impose the digital currency.

Jesus said to use the unrighteous mammon to make friends that will welcome you into eternal habitations. That is the best advice, you can use it to help others.
 

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Awesome post brother, thank you, I was not aware of that passage, but it rings true.
Ezekiel 7:19 They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the Lord: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity.
 

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Jesus said to use the unrighteous mammon to make friends that will welcome you into eternal habitations. That is the best advice, you can use it to help others.
Amen. Thats the plan one way or another.
 

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Waste of time. Spend it leaning on Senators to pass the budget bill.
You want to ignore the fact that people were using the Presidents signature fraudulently to get pardons for felonies? If you do that then you will be one with them when they ultimately receive the Lord's judgment at the Great White Throne judgment.
 
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You want to ignore the fact that people were using the Presidents signature fraudulently to get pardons for felonies?
The power of the pardon is absolute per the Constitution. There is no proof anyone else authorized those signatures. Biden spoke about those pardons after they were signed.
 

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The autopen has been used by many Presidents. If he authorizes its use, he's the "one who signed it."
Yes, if the President chooses to use it. But if someone else is deciding to put the Presidents signature on these pardons without his knowledge then that is fraud. Biden wasn't even in Washington DC when these pardons were signed, so he was not there to make this decision. There is no doubt in my mind it was fraud, but that doesn't mean we have proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Biden could claim that he was fully aware of what was going on. In that case it would still be possible to annul the pardons because I think it still violates the regulations around autopen, but they wouldn't be able to convict these people of fraud. However, the only way I'll believe it wasn't fraud is if they have an official memo he signed himself telling them to pardon those people prior to the autopen actually signing the pardons.
 

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The power of the pardon is absolute per the Constitution. There is no proof anyone else authorized those signatures. Biden spoke about those pardons after they were signed.
There is a regulation that he has to be present when it is used and he wasn't. That by itself is enough to annul the pardons. Why would they do that knowing the regulation if he was willing to authorize those pardons. Therefore, it is highly likely they'll be able to annul the pardons and certainly plausible that those responsible will be charged with fraud.
 
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There is a regulation that he has to be present when it is used and he wasn't. That by itself is enough to annul the pardons. Why would they do that knowing the regulation if he was willing to authorize those pardons. Therefore, it is highly likely they'll be able to annul the pardons and certainly plausible that those responsible will be charged with fraud.
There's nothing in the Constitution that supports that "regulation."
 

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Signature Forgery -- A Felony

Signature forgery refers to the act of imitating or creating a signature with the intent to deceive, typically to impersonate the signature of another person. This is done without the genuine signatory's permission or authorization.

Concerns with the use of Autopen

While the use of an autopen by the president isn't illegal, its appropriateness, especially for significant actions, is subject to debate and scrutiny. The key concern is ensuring that the president is aware of and intends to sign the document, regardless of the method used.

People need to understand that the President of the US might send out letters and invitations and other correspondence to thousands of people and so it is much easier if he simply authorizes those to be signed with the autopen. Yes, presidents have done this for decades. But signing legally binding documents like Presidential pardons of a few people has always been done by hand, Biden is the one and only President to do this with an autopen when he wasn't even at the Whitehouse. Everyone should understand the potential for abuse. You get a president who is not mentally competent, Reagan had Alzheimers and Biden had some form of dementia. Then the staff can continue on signing legally binding EOs and other documents without the knowledge of the president. This is the concern, especially since it appears this may have happened with the pardons.