October 13, 2020 Prosecutors Push For Tougher Sentences For Former Officers Charged In George Floyd’s Death

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soggykitten

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That's if a jury has the courage to find them guilty. When a NY jury acquitted the badged murderers of Amadou Diallo , shot 41 times, I'm not confident any jury has the steel to do what's right based on the evidence.
Please Lord! Let this jury bring justice to George Floyd and his family.

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MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Prosecutors are pushing for harsher potential sentences for Derek Chauvin and the other three former Minneapolis officers involved in the death of George Floyd.
In a brief filed Monday, attorney Matthew Frank, of Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison’s Office, argued that an “upward departure” from the regular state sentencing guidelines was warranted because the officers were in a position of power over Floyd and he was particularly vulnerable.

RELATED: Citing Safety Concerns, Judge Allows Derek Chauvin To Live In Neighboring State

Floyd died on Memorial Day outside a south Minneapolis convenience store. Officers were called to the intersection of 38th Street and Chicago Avenue on a report that Floyd tried to pass a $20 counterfeit bill.
Cellphone video of Floyd’s arrest showed Chauvin kneeling on Floyd’s neck for several minutes as he lay handcuffed, repeatedly saying he couldn’t breathe. Two of the other officers, J. Alexander Kueng and Thomas Lane, helped hold Floyd down while a fourth officer, Tou Thao, dealt with bystanders.

Chauvin is charged with second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. The other three former officers are facing charges of aiding and abetting murder and manslaughter. Their trial is scheduled for March. As of last week, all of the officers have posted bail and are out of custody.
The brief filed Monday was a response to a request from Hennepin County Judge Peter Cahill, who had asked in September for an explanation as to why an upward departure would be warranted in the event the officers are convicted.
 

Roughsoul1991

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That's if a jury has the courage to find them guilty. When a NY jury acquitted the badged murderers of Amadou Diallo , shot 41 times, I'm not confident any jury has the steel to do what's right based on the evidence.
Please Lord! Let this jury bring justice to George Floyd and his family.

WCCO4 Minnesota
MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Prosecutors are pushing for harsher potential sentences for Derek Chauvin and the other three former Minneapolis officers involved in the death of George Floyd.
In a brief filed Monday, attorney Matthew Frank, of Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison’s Office, argued that an “upward departure” from the regular state sentencing guidelines was warranted because the officers were in a position of power over Floyd and he was particularly vulnerable.


RELATED: Citing Safety Concerns, Judge Allows Derek Chauvin To Live In Neighboring State

Floyd died on Memorial Day outside a south Minneapolis convenience store. Officers were called to the intersection of 38th Street and Chicago Avenue on a report that Floyd tried to pass a $20 counterfeit bill.
Cellphone video of Floyd’s arrest showed Chauvin kneeling on Floyd’s neck for several minutes as he lay handcuffed, repeatedly saying he couldn’t breathe. Two of the other officers, J. Alexander Kueng and Thomas Lane, helped hold Floyd down while a fourth officer, Tou Thao, dealt with bystanders.


Chauvin is charged with second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. The other three former officers are facing charges of aiding and abetting murder and manslaughter. Their trial is scheduled for March. As of last week, all of the officers have posted bail and are out of custody.
The brief filed Monday was a response to a request from Hennepin County Judge Peter Cahill, who had asked in September for an explanation as to why an upward departure would be warranted in the event the officers are convicted.
Please Lord! Let this jury bring justice to George Floyd and his family.
Already been through all the evidence so far and just as their defense attorney is saying, Floyd died of a drug overdose, was uncompliant from the start, and resisting arrest. Chauvin used a hold not taught in the training. So how much did his move contribute vs the drug overdose? And above all else he was the lead officer in charge. The other officers were new and in training. Chauvin deserves all the blame especially if they ignore the drugs in Floyd's system.
 

soggykitten

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Already been through all the evidence so far and just as their defense attorney is saying, Floyd died of a drug overdose, was uncompliant from the start, and resisting arrest. Chauvin used a hold not taught in the training. So how much did his move contribute vs the drug overdose? And above all else he was the lead officer in charge. The other officers were new and in training. Chauvin deserves all the blame especially if they ignore the drugs in Floyd's system.
No, George Floyd did not die of a drug overdose. Had he died of that there would be no Homicide charge against Chauvin. Though Chauvin's defense team will likely try to claim drugs did kill George Floyd. Because compressing a mans throat and back, a man who already had stated he had trouble breathing, for nine minutes doesn't cause asphyxiation. :rolleyes:
The hold Chauvin used is illegal, or, unlawful for police.

We Know How George Floyd Died. It Wasn’t From Drugs.
The idea that drugs played a role is just a new version of an old racist myth.

By Carl L. Hart
Dr. Hart is a neuroscientist who specializes in how humans respond to psychoactive drugs.


Mr. Floyd had a negligible amount of drugs in his system — 19 nanograms per milliliter of methamphetamine and 2.9 nanograms per milliliter of THC, the major psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. Those numbers suggest he hadn’t used them in at least several hours, maybe a day.

Nor would marijuana use have stoked violence. Its primary effects are relaxation, sedation, euphoria and increased hunger. In some cases, it’s true, very high THC concentrations can cause mild paranoia, and visual and auditory distortions, but even these effects are rare and usually seen only in marijuana novices.

He also had 11 nanograms of fentanyl in his blood. That number, in and of itself, doesn’t tell us much. Immediately after a person dies, the blood concentration of fentanyl increases significantly, so knowing only the post-mortem amount does not tell us about Mr. Floyd’s level of intoxication before his death.
What’s more, the same amount of fentanyl that produces euphoria in a tolerant user can result in an overdose in a newer user. That’s why, along with the toxicology report, we have to look at Mr. Floyd’s behavior shortly before his death.
Videos show Mr. Floyd behaving rationally and appropriately, considering the circumstances. When officers asked him to get out of his car, he did not seem drowsy or lethargic, which is how people high on opioids behave.

Instead, video clearly shows Mr. Chauvin pressing his knee into Mr. Floyd’s neck as he yelled out, “I can’t breathe” until he became unresponsive, while two other officers helped pin him down by applying pressure to his back.

The findings of the two autopsy reports — one from the Hennepin County medical examiner’s office and the other from a medical examiner hired by Mr. Floyd’s family — classified the manner of Mr. Floyd’s death as homicide.