There was English in the video I posted. Was there any English in the one you posted?
More and more you strike me as someone who just wants to argue.
Not By Works
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More and more you strike me as someone who just wants to argue.
That’s interesting because when Jesus was on the cross He said it is complete. He also said whoever believes in Him shall be saved.Jesus works day and night with his church to bring salvation to new converts so once again I will tell you works are nesacarey for salvation
Schizophrenia is prevalent in CC, as are many other mental impairments and deficiencies.
actually you quoted my post first with an question of disagreement.
And so you agree the works of Jesus are nesacarey to bring salvation to new converts and for the church to carry out such works.
So works are nesacarey for salvation.
Oh an if I wanted to argue I would of took part in this thread a lot more.
There is no obtaining salvation by your self, that's an argument and a loaded question. So go and pick on somebody else
There is definitely something going on. There is also a lot of cognitive dissonance.
Do you really not understand that this thread was about the fact that OUR works do not obtain salvation? .
YEH, what she said! It is amazing how little they do understand.
There was no question in my first post to you here in this conversation stream.
I was simply letting you know that it would be erroneous to assume all those you saw in the first 20 pages
of this thread who are now banned did not get banned due to exchanges that happened in this thread.
See for yourself:
You have been repeatedly informed that that is not the issue or the reason for this thread or the crux of the matter.
Why do you continually ignore this?
You keep adding things to the convo that simply were not there.
Your contention was that works are necessary for salvation, and then you move the goal posts to say
it is Jesus' work which is necessary, when that was never the point of this thread beyond assuring
others that yes, Jesus accomplished all on our behalf, and what is required of us is faith in Him.
That was the point of this thread because many come and preach a different gospel.
Perhaps you are unaware of this. Now you have been informed.
Many were reassured and relieved to discover they were secure in their foundation.
Countering the false notions people put forward happens in every thread.there shouldn't be any argument of works in my opinion.
it's a shame you haven't noticed how many times you have pointed your finger at me in your last 4 post to me.
Pointing my finger at your false and misleading statements? Ok. Yeah. For sure!
You are in need of correction but seem to steadfastly refuse it.
are you sure it wasn't his mission that was finished when he said his last words, it's finished ?.
And part of his mission was to go and train people to go and make disciples out of nations.
I’m sure. That’s a strange question coming from you considering you believe Jesus is still working hard at saving people.
I think what I'm going to is block this website from sending me email alerts.
Because all day I have been building a sailing yacht, and all day I keep getting alerts that sombody has sent me a message.
So me being me has took there time to research help and come back in to reply and stoping everything I was doing.
Works to bring people salvation are just as valid befor the cross as they are after the cross.
It's your self who needs correction because works are needed for salvation.
So to then say not by works is a contradiction, whether you address it as obtaining salvation by your self, still doesn't get away from the fact that works are needed for salvation.
