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Magenta said:
Language suggests otherwise... i.e., nobody can lose something they don't have. Salvation cannot be lost if they are not saved in the first place. Yet the premise put forth is that salvation can be lost.
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I know but we need to interpret what they believe. We do not like when They twist our words
 
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preacher4truth said:
He doesn't offer it to all, your definition is most unbiblical. He extends grace and mercy to some, others, not so much. You've declared then it's not grace unless everyone has it "offered" to them. This doesn't match Scripture. I'm glad I haven't made such a charge.
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Then it’s not grace based on love

Why take
Love out of the equation?
 
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preacher4truth said:
Thought I came up with it on my own? I know I came up with it on my own, it is nowhere in Scripture.
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So you came up with the gospel
On your own? You have been arguing against this since I met you. I must
Misunderstand you
I've met many, however, I don't need validation from anyone.
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Again I must misunderstand you your whole premise is that we would never come up with the truth on our own
 
Rosemaryx said:
@tourist ...
No disrespect to you , but your comment is not very nice , I mean the man cannot even defend himself against your comment...
What will you do when in heaven , would you turn your back on him ? , this is what Jesus says

John 13:34
A new commandment I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so also you must love one another.

I can understand people debating Scripture , and not agreeing with each other , but this was personal...
...xox...
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I fully agree with you that my comment was not very nice and I do thank you and respect you to bringing this to my attention. I must have an insensitive issue of some sort and feel the need to amuse myself at the expense of others. My bad, per usual and I am sorry if that post offered offence because that was not my intent. From what I understand the member that was banned was a decent Christian person and my actions were uncalled for.
 
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tourist said:
I fully agree with you that my comment was not very nice and I do thank you and respect you to bringing this to my attention. I must have an insensitive issue of some sort and feel the need to amuse myself at the expense of others. My bad, per usual and I am sorry if that post offered offence because that was not my intent. From what I understand the member that was banned was a decent Christian person and my actions were uncalled for.
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This is an excellent example of how and why you are such a wonderful role model here :)

Oops I saw two of this post, so deleted one, and then there were none LOL
 
dcontroversal said:
AMEN TO THIS ONE RIGHT HERE
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I changed the "Winner" to a Like .. Winner felt somewhat self congratulatory when it was by all by His Spirit bringing the scripture

to my remembrance via a lesser known church song, "The Spirit and the Bride Say Come"

I was saddened today that someone

was being influenced by "the dogma" yet.......

God has a sense of humor, I choreographed and danced to that song at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church (a very Calvinist church

with a with a young trendy Pastor) during an Sunday evening service in Windsor, Ontario years ago ... I today realized the irony!!

I hope that scripture sinks in for some on here being influenced.:cry:
 
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Magenta said:
This is an excellent example of how and why you are such a wonderful role model here :)

Oops I saw two of this post, so deleted one, and then there were none LOL
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Did You used to be called Angel Mapper, very similar artwork is why I asked?
 
VCO said:
Did You used to be called Angel Mapper, very similar artwork is why I asked?
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No, I have never heard that name before, and in my 20 years online, especially the last 13 as a Christian, I have always been known as Magenta. I have started constructing my own angels, though :D I will look up this angel mapper....
 
@VCO a cursory search: I could not find a person by that that name with art work connected to them...

but I did find this :D

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1ofthem said:
Yeah, looks like you would have to mark a whole lot out, to draw that conclusion....lol
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On a different site I was discussing points of Calvinism and was asking God for answers to their scriptural points. He told me “read the whole passage” or chapter or chapters before. That always brought clarity. After a time I stopped asking Him for answers cause He always said the same thing. Their main point of predestination, for example, rests on blacking out exactly what his children are predestined for.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Grace is given out of love

If God claims to be long suffering and a God of love, and telling us to love himself even our enemies.

Then should he not be our greatest example of what true love looks like?

If he does not offer grace to all. is he not practicing what he himself preaches?
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God is the god of love, so that was also his heart when He gave us the Torah. We have to understand it.
 
Magenta said:
No, I have never heard that name before, and in my 20 years online, especially the last 13 as a Christian, I have always been known as Magenta. I have started constructing my own angels, though :D I will look up this angel mapper....
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She was one of the people who made maps for a Computer game I used to play years ago. I ran across the image that she made, as I was installing photos on my new laptop today. You can see why I thought it might be you.

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