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So dead faith obeys God's commandments in order to become a living faith or because it's a living faith? Just how sufficiently must we obey God's commandments in order to be saved? Are you implying that anything short of sinless, perfect obedience 100% of the time to ALL of God's commandments means that we are not righteous/are disobedient and will not be saved? 
SIGH!
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Correct, yet you continuously "add works" to salvation through faith.
Yes, faith means belief/trust/reliance/confidence in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. (Ephesians 2:8)
Is this where you "add" baptism to salvation through faith? The genitive in the Greek text is correctly translated as the pledge of a good conscience. It's not the mechanical act of getting water baptized that literally saves us - not the removal of dirt from the flesh (that is, not as an outward, physical act which washes dirt from the body--that is not what saves you), "but an appeal to God for a good conscience," through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (that is, as an inward, spiritual transaction between God and the individual, a transaction that is symbolized by the outward ceremony of water baptism).
We could paraphrase Peter's statement by saying, "Baptism now saves you--not the outward physical ceremony of baptism but the inward spiritual reality which baptism represents." Just as the eight people in the ark were "saved THROUGH water" as they were IN THE ARK. They were not literally saved "by" the water. Hebrews 11:7 is clear on this point (..built an ARK for the SAVING of his household). *NOTE: The context reveals that ONLY the righteous (Noah and his family) were DRY and therefore SAFE in the ARK. In contrast, only the wicked came in contact with the water and they all perished.
There is no good conscience apart from salvation through faith in Christ no matter how much obedience that you attempt to conjure up in a vain effort to obtain salvation by works. (Matthew 7:21-23) John 6:40 - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. Obedience which follows is works and we are saved through faith, not works. (Ephesians 2:8,9)
Yes, faith means belief/trust/reliance/confidence in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. (Ephesians 2:8)
Is this where you "add" baptism to salvation through faith? The genitive in the Greek text is correctly translated as the pledge of a good conscience. It's not the mechanical act of getting water baptized that literally saves us - not the removal of dirt from the flesh (that is, not as an outward, physical act which washes dirt from the body--that is not what saves you), "but an appeal to God for a good conscience," through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (that is, as an inward, spiritual transaction between God and the individual, a transaction that is symbolized by the outward ceremony of water baptism).
We could paraphrase Peter's statement by saying, "Baptism now saves you--not the outward physical ceremony of baptism but the inward spiritual reality which baptism represents." Just as the eight people in the ark were "saved THROUGH water" as they were IN THE ARK. They were not literally saved "by" the water. Hebrews 11:7 is clear on this point (..built an ARK for the SAVING of his household). *NOTE: The context reveals that ONLY the righteous (Noah and his family) were DRY and therefore SAFE in the ARK. In contrast, only the wicked came in contact with the water and they all perished.
There is no good conscience apart from salvation through faith in Christ no matter how much obedience that you attempt to conjure up in a vain effort to obtain salvation by works. (Matthew 7:21-23) John 6:40 - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. Obedience which follows is works and we are saved through faith, not works. (Ephesians 2:8,9)
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Everyone pay attention to the deceptive liar--> Judges in this post.... I highlighted and bolded HIS WORDS in the following post and HE UNBOLDED what I bolded to make it look like I was directing my statement at the word of God.....HIS WORDS were..
Judges said ->>If you no longer believe/ trust in Christ you no longer have the blood of Christ to cover you sins.
Your sinning from that point forward is held to your account, not Christ's anymore.
Judges should be banned for de-bolding what I bolded to make it look like I said something I did not say toward the word of God....this right here PROVES your character and who leads you pal...NO HONESTY OR INTEGRITY!
Judges said ->>If you no longer believe/ trust in Christ you no longer have the blood of Christ to cover you sins.
Your sinning from that point forward is held to your account, not Christ's anymore.
Judges should be banned for de-bolding what I bolded to make it look like I said something I did not say toward the word of God....this right here PROVES your character and who leads you pal...NO HONESTY OR INTEGRITY!
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