Not By Works
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EleventhHour
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Put on your thinking cap...the "event" "occurence" of being born physically cannot be undone.
No person has gone back to the womb and has been un-created capisci?
Death does not undo that event..the person still existed.
Until you will deal with this strong analogy taught by Jesus you have no case.
And it really puts an end to all your scripture twisting.
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EleventhHour
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"I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me." - Philippians 3:12
[/quote]stay saved[/quote]
You are presently saved and will remain that way as long as you are presently believing.
Or does 1 Corinthians 15:2 not really mean what it says and you are saved if you don't hold fast the word?
"you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you" - 1 Corinthians 15:2
You are presently saved and will remain that way as long as you are presently believing.
Or does 1 Corinthians 15:2 not really mean what it says and you are saved if you don't hold fast the word?
" 9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son." - 2 John 1:9
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I don't know anybody with C-19 yet.
But you can be sure I'll be praying for healing when it gets here.
Doesn't your church pray for the sick?
I pray for sick people.
Don't you?
No, those aren't the works that show one to have the faith that saves:
"22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’" - Matthew 7:22-23
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You just refuse to use words in the context the were written.
2. Study Scripture as whole, not pick and choose verses, that may seem to contradict scripture to the "newborn" Christians.
Do the word study, the bible was not written in English.
The word is deeper than what you make it.....
Yahweh sanctifies, not men. 1 TIME. He knows when they will come.
His will was set before the foundation of the world.
Regardless of what men "do", it will not trump His will for that man.
No one can be forced to believe in the death, burial and Resurrection, its spiritual.
I disagree.
There is a "power".
We are told about them. Don't think there is a need to cite Scripture.
God Bless!
There is no power in his false satanic gospel to save.....! And last time I checked, there is but ONE gospel that has power to save and when it is CORRUPTED it is VOID of power....NO NEED to cite a PLETHORA of verses in context that prove my stance!
The more you bloviate, the more you prove that you have no spiritual insight....VOID of truth and biblical understanding.......you sicken me with your devaluation of Jesus and the truth.......utterly disgusting!
I used the context of the passage to make my point.
Osas is the doctrine that ignores the context of Hebrews 10:29 to defend itself.
I showed you this.
Ask him what church he attends.....he has already openly admitted that he counts the blood of Jesus a common ordinary base thing and tramples Jesus uder his feet.....he constantly forsakes the assembly.....!
That is what the passage says:
"by the blood of Christ" - Hebrews 10:29
Yes, this is right in the passage.
That's what the 'forever' is in salvation.
But osas says 'forever' means you can't lose it.
That's not what the passage says.
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EleventhHour
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You are avoiding my post.
Admit you have no answer and your position is Not TRUTH!!
The only thing you show is a complete and utter ignorance of scripture, context, verb tense and a false dogma that will take you straight to the pit pal....! Make no mistake about it...you do not know what you are talking about!
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