Not By Works
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My comment is related to need for works in demonstration of faith. My reference to demons is from scriptural reasoning at James 2:18-20.
What do you believe about Jesus? What do you believe about salvation? Do you believe you need to be perfect/sinless to be saved?
John 8:34-36.
This is enjoyable. "Christianity vs. the Kingdom of God", indeed.
Properly understood, salvation is a change of government: from under Satan to under Jesus Christ via the Holy Spirit. That is a central thing He showed us in Exodus. Christ is our Passover, we apply the blood, our slavery was to sin, we came through the waters of baptism and have received the baptism with the Holy Spirit - which is why John said He came - and now He is our Lord, Head over all things to us. The sons of God are those who are being led by the Spirit of God.
Whoever has a problem with the proceeding paragraph has the spirit of antichrist at work within them.
Jesus didn't come to start Christianity. Denominations are a work of the flesh, which those who belong to Christ have crucified, as it is written. A problem with the Christian church is its millions of heads.
This is enjoyable. "Christianity vs. the Kingdom of God", indeed.
Properly understood, salvation is a change of government: from under Satan to under Jesus Christ via the Holy Spirit. That is a central thing He showed us in Exodus. Christ is our Passover, we apply the blood, our slavery was to sin, we came through the waters of baptism and have received the baptism with the Holy Spirit - which is why John said He came - and now He is our Lord, Head over all things to us. The sons of God are those who are being led by the Spirit of God.
Whoever has a problem with the proceeding paragraph has the spirit of antichrist at work within them.
Jesus didn't come to start Christianity. Denominations are a work of the flesh, which those who belong to Christ have crucified, as it is written. A problem with the Christian church is its millions of heads.
Scripture is clear.
We are warned to not be high minded, but fear. Because if we do not continue in his goodness we can also be cut off like the unbelieving Jews were (Romans 11:22).
We are warned to continue in the faith grounded and settled and not to be moved away or else we will not be presented holy, unblameable, and unreprovable in his sight (Colossians 1:22-23).
We are warned that no man having put his hand to plow and looking back is fit for kingdom (Luke 9:62).
IF a man keep my saying, he shall never see death (John 8:51).
It’s not about God’s abilities, it’s about our decision to surrender all to him and follow in obedience to righteousness.
If you cannot see how the scripture is against OSAS, I can only pray your eyes will be opened someday.
Worth considering words of Jesus at Matthew 7:21. Who would be the ones who say Lord Lord? Certainly ones who have faith right? Notice how Jesus stressed ‘doing’ the will of his Father as the qualifying factor for entry into the Kingdom of Heaven. Just saying we believe is not enough. Our faith needs to be supported by works.
Jesus went further in Matthew 7:23 when he said he would declare he never knew certain ones who profess faith in him. Why? After emphasising works are required, he is also stressing those works need to be in accord with his Fathers will. Otherwise ones who profess faith in him could be rejected by him.
Another proof the scriptures do not support OSAS.
Jesus went further in Matthew 7:23 when he said he would declare he never knew certain ones who profess faith in him. Why? After emphasising works are required, he is also stressing those works need to be in accord with his Fathers will. Otherwise ones who profess faith in him could be rejected by him.
Another proof the scriptures do not support OSAS.
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You’re not Christian so your hugs are geared towards the wrong entity. Keep up the good work though; I find you quite entertaining, in a sad, yet comical way.
I am a disciple of Jesus Christ, by His choice, a follower of the Way.
Impossible for it to be evidence scripture doesn't support eternal security because HE said HE never knew them to those who say "lord lord" but then point to their "many wonderful works".
Every single verse I've seen people try to use to mean some of God's children eventually are thrown into the lake of fire, when viewed in proper context, say no such thing.
Saving faith can't be destroyed, it's like being able to stop believing we have been born.
We are new, and know we are His.
This is by His power and His mercy and we are grateful.
He literally abides in us. He won't leave us. We hear Him and when we don't follow we are chastened as children, but we hear. Not like before when we were enemies and dead in unbelief. We have been "quickened" already but do not yet see what we shall be.
Imagine that; he sees us Christians for who and what we are, tainted and in need of Jesus Christ, our Savior. Funny how that works. Problem is, he doesn’t see his own taint.
