Not By Works

[Elihoenai]

Yes I pray that you will, so far you have not, you are not even in the ball park yet.

We shall see.

 

[Lightskin]

You have never Loved Elohim/God if you don't keep the Feast Days in the Law of Moses.

And you have never loved the Lord thy God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength if you refuse to recognize the fullness of Jesus’s sacrifice for your salvation.

 

[Elihoenai]

He has saved and will save every one of His children. We will be seen as sinless come judgement having not our righteousness but the righteousness of Christ.

Isaiah 53:11 - He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
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romans 3

19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
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Romans 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous

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2 Corinthians 5:21 - For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

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Philippians 3:9 - And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

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Galatians 2:16 - Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

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Titus 3:5
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

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I have been saved already. From a just punishment as well as the bondage of sin and appart from merit.


You however seem to reject Christ's righteousness and seek to establish your own.

Those Scriptures are much appreciated.

Does Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ practice the Law of Moses?

 

[dcontroversal]

Yep.

not to earn his salvation, but a sign of the covenant,

just like God says we are to be baptized. Not to get or keep saved. But as a sign of faith in obedience to him.

You may read the Bible, sadly you do not understand what you read

How hard is it to grasp that being justified by faith before God, deemed righteous and SAVED all happen at the same time when one by faith acknowledges the Savior/Messiah/The Redeemer/Jesus/Yeshua BY FAITH in the blood.....I used all 5 because they ALL EQUAL the same SON OF GOD......they absolutely miss the simplicity found in Christ and then over complicate and void the power of the message to be effectual by embellishing the message!

 

[dcontroversal]

Jude 12 King James Version (KJV)

12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;


You have never Loved Elohim/God if you don't keep the Feast Days in the Law of Moses.

False alert..........more Hebrew roots drivel.........!!!

 

[dcontroversal]

Great post!!!

The correct understanding of the application of Faith has been lost. All due to a mistranslation of the Greek word pisteuo.

Pisteuo, was mistranslated into the English with the words believe, believer, and believing. There is no such thing in the Greek as just believing.

Pisteuo can't be translated into the English using only one word. Primarily because the English doesn't have a corresponding verb to the noun Faith like the Greek does. The English should have the words faithe, faither, and faithing to correctly comunícate pisteuo.

Pisteuo is defined in the Greek dictionary as" a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. "

Bottom line in regards to the " deceived believers" in here. Everything is a work except believing, for them that doesn't take any work or effort!

J

The peddler fake faith is back peddling the words of his master as a good deceived servant.....you were wrong when you started peddling this crap...have been proven wrong and are still wrong.......!

 

[dcontroversal]

We shall see.

You will see for sure....and it will be your worst day ever....with eternity to pay.......make no mistake about it pal.....NO ONE is made righteous by keeping the law or any other religious hoop jumping......I suggest you open your eyes the the mercy, grace and saving faith found under the New Covenant and quit conflating both the Old and New into a false dogma with no power to do anything but condemn you to a devil's hell.....!!

 

[dcontroversal]

The command to sell all your possessions and give to the Poor.

Here is a discussion about this command on another Forum Website:
**link removed**

We do not promote other websites on this thread...This is Christian Chat...we do not need to read the same drivel and blather that you peddle here from another site to already know that we do not buy what you are selling.....Trust Jesus by faith anf be set free from the chains that bind you!!!

 

[Lightskin]

Great post!!!

The correct understanding of the application of Faith has been lost. All due to a mistranslation of the Greek word pisteuo.

Pisteuo, was mistranslated into the English with the words believe, believer, and believing. There is no such thing in the Greek as just believing.

Pisteuo can't be translated into the English using only one word. Primarily because the English doesn't have a corresponding verb to the noun Faith like the Greek does. The English should have the words faithe, faither, and faithing to correctly comunícate pisteuo.

Pisteuo is defined in the Greek dictionary as" a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. "

Bottom line in regards to the " deceived believers" in here. Everything is a work except believing, for them that doesn't take any work or effort!

J

I like pistachios. I bought a bag of them just the other day. My dogs like them also.

 

[Lightskin]

We shall see.

Indeed you will, and you won’t like it.

 

[dcontroversal]

I like pistachios. I bought a bag of them just the other day. My dogs like them also.

Please tell me that pistachio is not going to spam us with this "faithing" crap again........hah

 

[Lightskin]

You will see for sure....and it will be your worst day ever....with eternity to pay.......make no mistake about it pal.....NO ONE is made righteous by keeping the law or any other religious hoop jumping......I suggest you open your eyes the the mercy, grace and saving faith found under the New Covenant and quit conflating both the Old and New into a false dogma with no power to do anything but condemn you to a devil's hell.....!!

This post may get me banned and lose a few friends along the way but I’m only being honest. There’s a part of me that looks forward to seeing pius, self righteous, finger-pointing losers weep on Judgment Day.

 

[Lightskin]

Please tell me that pistachio is not going to spam us with this "faithing" crap again........hah

He will, but it’s not going to ruin how much I love my morning coffee.

 

[Judges1318]

You have never Loved Elohim/God if you don't keep the Feast Days in the Law of Moses.

All the commandments are summarily fulfilled in the Royal law 'love your neighbor as yourself':

"whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” a and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” " - Romans 13:8-9

When you keep the command to love your neighbor as yourself you are 'keeping' all the rest. So it's really more accurate to say you have never fulfilled the Feast Days in the Law of Moses if don't love your neighbor as yourself.

 

[Judges1318]

This post may get me banned and lose a few friends along the way but I’m only being honest. There’s a part of me that looks forward to seeing pius, self righteous, finger-pointing losers weep on Judgment Day.

 

[OneOfHis]

Those Scriptures are much appreciated.

I hope one day you try to understand what they mean.

 

[Judges1318]

For the Christian the Passover Lamb is Christ. And the leaven that is swept clean from our 'houses' in accordance with the Law of Moses immediately after the Passover is the leaven of your sin:

"Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival (the one that immediately follows Passover), not with the old bread leavened with malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth." - 1 Corinthians 5:7-8

Faith in Christ that expresses itself in love for others is what counts:

"The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love." - Galatians 5:6

The person who's faith in Christ gets expressed in love for others has fulfilled the law of Moses.

 

[OneOfHis]

This post may get me banned and lose a few friends along the way but I’m only being honest. There’s a part of me that looks forward to seeing pius, self righteous, finger-pointing losers weep on Judgment Day.

Lol no you won't lose a friend or get banned. Nothing wrong with wanting justice for injustice as a matter of fact that is a good thing, but ultimately I don't believe you want these people to continue in their blindness more than to see the light....


I watched a few crime videos a few months back... some of the things people can do are so... so wicked...

I definitely want God in His perfect righteousness to come serve justice....

But until that day I'd be lying if I said seeing someone actually turn and repent from unbelief and see the gospel as true then be born again isn't one of the most wonderful things we can witness..

(and I think you'd agree... I was just pointing out there is a difference between wanting to see evil punished and NOT wanting someone to be made new)

 

[Judges1318]

I personally don't see any reason why a Christian can't celebrate the truths of Christ that the law represents by keeping the Festival and Sabbaths. I don't mean in a tiresome, meaningless, spirit-less, legalistic way, and definitely not for the purpose of trying to be justified by doing those things. I mean meeting on the Feast days to learn and be reminded how Christ is the reality represented by those things. Then the Feasts and Sabbaths will be the true celebration and commemoration God intended them to be. I don't think it was necessary for the Catholics to make a new schedule and method of celebrating and commemorating Christ, the fulfillment of the law.

 

[Judges1318]

I watched a few crime videos a few months back... some of the things people can do are so... so wicked..

Which is why you should remain completely anonymous on line.
I'm being completely serious.

You know what they say about religion and politics.