Not By Works

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dcontroversal said:
It does not get any plainer..........Our righteous works have ZERO to do with Salvation!

English Standard Version
he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

Berean Study Bible
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.

Berean Literal Bible
He saved us, not by works in righteousness that we did, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,

New American Standard Bible
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

King James Bible
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
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3 people put red X's on scripture. I think that should be strange behavior to a Christian.
 
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Locoponydirtman said:
3 people put red X's on scripture. I think that should be strange behavior to a Christian.
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Depends on who posted and what scripture.....I red x fools that post scripture out of context when I know they are salvation losing working for Cainologists trying to peddle a losable or self maintained salvation.......
 
PS said:
1Jn 3:9-10 KJV
(9) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
(10) In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

You had better not sin.
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Ignorance alert.......lack of understanding alert.......lack of contextual honesty alert......!!!
 
PS said:
They are about Christians who fall by the wayside.

Heb 10:21-26 KJV
(21) And having an high priest over the house of God;
(22) Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
(23) Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
(24) And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
(25) Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
(26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
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Lack of contextual honesty alert....ignorance alert.....false approach alert.....
 
Locoponydirtman said:
3 people put red X's on scripture. I think that should be strange behavior to a Christian.
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Everyone has a different perspective of their faith walk, I think. When we're in a relationship with God it stands to reason we wouldn't each and everyone think alike.
Of course works has everything to do with Salvation. Our Salvation is what leads us to do the good work of God. And come the judgment we will stand and answer for what we did, how we worked, in His service. So, works are a part of the plan of Salvation, just not as some may think.
We do not labor to keep our Salvation or else God will snatch it away. I think that idea is what so called Works Salvation proponents believe. Which is sad really, because there is no scripture understood in proper context that tells us that.
Can you imagine? Rather than living in the security and peace of Christ, those poor people think their Salvation is precariously perched upon their behaviors.
 
EleventhHour said:
Big pharma is big money...always looking to increase their profit margin.

As well vaccines contain many properties, chemicals that are a problem.
Having said that I do think there may be the odd vaccine that is helpful....but best to research.:)
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In all fairness.....at least 5 diseases were eradicated in the U.S. by vaccines until Barry Hisnameis Osama allowed a massive influx of refugees from the Middle East......now they are emerging again in the U.S.....tragically!!
 
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EleventhHour said:
Agree a strong immune system is best.... let the body do what it is set up to do and provide the proper environment for it to stay healthy.

However, I know some people do have compromised immune systems so they need to consider many factors.

I think what worries me is forced vaccinations which I think is the real worry...the outbreak is only a step towards that reality.
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one can boost the immune system....mass doses of B vitamins and an ounce of collodial silver every day........ ;)
 
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dcontroversal said:
In all fairness.....at least 5 diseases were eradicated in the U.S. by vaccines until Barry Hisnameis Osama allowed a massive influx of refugees from the Middle East......now they are emerging again in the U.S.....tragically!!
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Agree... Not an anti-vaccination... just cautious.

Barry Hisnameis Osama LOL.... do not miss him that is for sure!!
 
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PS said:
I thought I had posted it, sorry.

Grace is irrevocable, but God can and does take his grace away from the wicked and give it to the righteous. We all know he took his grace away from Israel except for the remnant who remained loyal, and transferred it to the Gentiles. Likewise, He can and will do the same to the wicked among us.

Galatians 5:4 “You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.”
Rom 10:21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
Rom 11:4-5 I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles.
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Total contradiction alert, error alert, false alert, wrong alert, contextual dishonesty alert, skewed word alert
 
Whispered said:
An ounce of Colloidal Silver every day will do just the opposite of stimulating one to good health.
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yeah.......wrong......try again......and I did not say Silver Nitrate....and both by research and trial I have seen it work as well as shrink tumors in friends......silver kills over 500 known pathogens in less than 5 minutes and when made with distilled water and pure silver it does INDEED WORK.....
 
dcontroversal said:
yeah.......wrong......try again......and I did not say Silver Nitrate....and both by research and trial I have seen it work as well as shrink tumors in friends......silver kills over 500 known pathogens in less than 5 minutes and when made with distilled water and pure silver it does INDEED WORK.....
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I have read many testimonies about it..... the medical industry suppresses information.
 
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dcontroversal said:
yeah.......wrong......try again......and I did not say Silver Nitrate....and both by research and trial I have seen it work as well as shrink tumors in friends......silver kills over 500 known pathogens in less than 5 minutes and when made with distilled water and pure silver it does INDEED WORK.....
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Try again? After I was correct the first time? OK.

"....no sound scientific studies to evaluate these health claims have been published in reputable medical journals. In fact, the Food and Drug Administration has taken action against some manufacturers of colloidal silver products for making unproven health claims.

It's not clear how much colloidal silver may be harmful, but it can build up in your body's tissues over months or years. Most commonly, this results in argyria (ahr-JIR-e-uh), a blue-gray discoloration of your skin, eyes, internal organs, nails and gums. While argyria doesn't usually pose a serious health problem, it can be a cosmetic concern because it doesn't go away when you stop taking silver products.

Rarely, excessive doses of colloidal silver can cause possibly irreversible serious health problems, including kidney damage and neurological problems such as seizures." [Mayo Clinic source, more reading]
 
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