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Lightskin said:
So God’s grace is irrevocable but He revokes it if you fall on the backslide.
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NO, you actually sin in the LIGHT where everyone can see, IF YOU WERE SAVED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

When are you going to LEARN their ARE FOLLOWERS (disciples) of JESUS, that have NEVER BEEN BORN AGAIN.

John 3:3 (NIV)
3 In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."

HERE ARE NON-BORN AGAIN FOLLOWERS, THAT HE CALLS THEM DISCIPLES.

John 6:66 (NIV)
66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.


A Disciple is a Follower, while the CHURCH is made up of ONLY Born Again Believers.

Thus this VERSE remains 100% TRUE:


1 John 2:19 (NKJV)
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.


The Prodigal will come back to the Father,

While the non-Born Again disciples will NEVER COME BACK.
 
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Lightskin said:
So God’s grace is irrevocable but He revokes it if you fall on the backslide.
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No Lightskin no.....God never ever turns His back in His adopted child...never.

Please do not state these words.
We are safe ... we have no authority to undo what God has done.

What you have written here is absolutely not true.

It is not by our will we are saved and it never by our will that we can be unsaved.
 
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VCO said:
When are you going to LEARN their ARE FOLLOWERS (disciples) of JESUS, that have NEVER BEEN BORN AGAIN.
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Last week you stated openly that I committed blasphemy and you weren’t man enough to recognize it or apologize for it.

I don’t know who you think you are corresponding to me in that condescending tone but you’re not going to continue to do so.

As for your post, Romans 10:9-10 speaks for itself. When are you going to learn THAT?!
 
EleventhHour said:
No Lightskin no.....God never ever turns His back in His adopted child...never.

Please do not state these words.
We are safe ... we have no authority to undo what God has done.

What you have written here is absolutely not true.

It is not by our will we are saved and it never by our will that we can be unsaved.
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I know that. You should know I know that.
 
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EleventhHour said:
No Lightskin no.....God never ever turns His back in His adopted child...never.

Please do not state these words.
We are safe ... we have no authority to undo what God has done.

What you have written here is absolutely not true.

It is not by our will we are saved and it never by our will that we can be unsaved.
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I believe he was trying to sum up the self conflicting conclusion of you know who.
 
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gb9 said:
I thought that you were providing Scripture that showed how God takes His grace away.....
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I thought I had posted it, sorry.

Grace is irrevocable, but God can and does take his grace away from the wicked and give it to the righteous. We all know he took his grace away from Israel except for the remnant who remained loyal, and transferred it to the Gentiles. Likewise, He can and will do the same to the wicked among us.

Galatians 5:4 “You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.”
Rom 10:21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
Rom 11:4-5 I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles.
 
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