Not By Works

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Melach said:
nCov virus coming from china 3 cities there blocked we're all gonna die. again. i predict this is another media frenzy as always. even black plague didnt end everyone only third of europe

i had the swine flu and lived to tell the story. really just a regular flu.
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Toronto went through SARS a few years back we were under travel restrictions ....and some many were not allowed to leave their homes.
Once the city knew what it was dealing with they brought it under control.
This is another great boost to the vaccine industry.
I agree need to be careful about media hype.

Like with H1N1 I remember people stood in line for a full day for the vaccine.

Problem - Reaction- Solution and money made in the meantime.

One must remember China is not clean and their open markets have been the source of many contagens.

Mostly this Coronavirus affects people with weakened immune systems and the elderly.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Toronto went through SARS a few years back we were under travel restrictions ....and some many were not allowed to leave their homes.
Once the city knew what it was dealing with they brought it under control.
This is another great boost to the vaccine industry.
I agree need to be careful about media hype.

Like with H1N1 I remember people stood in line for a full day for the vaccine.

Problem - Reaction- Solution and money made in the meantime.

One must remember China is not clean and their open markets have been the source of many contagens.

Mostly this Coronavirus affects people with weakened immune systems and the elderly.
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many got narcolepsy from h1n1 vaccinations here. its a disease that make u fall asleep all of a sudden so u can never ride bicycle or drive car or anything.
 
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PS said:
Now, now. God withdraws his grace from the wicked, most of the Israelites fo example, grants it to others, and in Moses day drowned the rest.
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By defenition
if you commit one sin your guilty of the law. Hence in need of Grace
children if Satan are evil. Not Gods children
your continuing refusal to acknowledge 1 John 3 is amazing
 
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Discern said:
Btw. Just kidding. I’m Macabeus. I have a besetting sin. But I’m no worse than the guy in the story.

So now that you know I’m the guy in the story, not as an adulterer, but as a liar, is your answer different

I did say numerous times I was the man in the story, but with a different sin

Sorry for lying all this time. Peace out
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We all in a way are like the guy in the story, but we all also are different....

I hope God works in your life not only to remove sin, but also to give you peace and assurance in His promises

that you see exactly what He wants you to see and that you become more and more useful to Him as you grow in your walk....


ultimately we agreed that this man may or may not be one of Gods children (saved) because there can be no clear answer without knowing is God started in him....



this was me

v
JaimeMartinez26 said:
love you guys but if you love sin you are a servant to it..... and we cannot serve two masters.... making a mistake and feeling guilty (only because faith not pride of how holy you are) happens


but doing evil and saying "oh i believe in Jesus" without a 2nd thought of the price he paid for you or how he feels


that shows your heart to God
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JaimeMartinez26 said:
maybe re read?

who said you NEED works for salvation? not me
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JaimeMartinez26 said:
youre offended "like i implied you need works, i didnt"

who said you need works not me
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JaimeMartinez26 said:
read the I DIDNT right after and the NOT ME... youre lying or not reading but thats a silly argument to anyone who can see
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If you only look to the primary points... i argued the same thing you did and the same way you did


i said all this implying a saving faith will always work

if you sin you love sin

and you dont need works it is only by faith


this was dishonest of me... and this is only one of the accounts i had used in the past

i personally came after some here as those who justify sin..🤦‍♂️ (especially dcon)

not sure if you will see this but
i wish you only the best
 
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EleventhHour said:
Wow that is terrible...I stay away from vaccines ...the game they play is self evident.
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i was vaccinated when i was born. but now i dont get any flu vaccinations or anything. if i get it i get it. atleast it gives you natural real immunity to it. vaccination they add all types of things there so you dont even know whats going on.

i know people who got the disease from the vaccine.
 
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JaimeMartinez26 said:
dc to me you seem like someone who tries to justify sin and condem those who speak of repenting


if youre going to speak of salvation you should bring up the change of heart Jesus provides in those who do have faith



youre right


no amount of works will ever gain a sinner access to heaven

correct



but no one with faith is the same before and after they recieve the gift of Faith
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If you look real close with eyes that can see you can spot the double talk.


JaimeMartinez26 said:
me you personally were sooooooo offended i mentioned repentance you didnt clearly read my words and claimed i had a belief i never had when i stated before hand those werent my beliefs.... if you did it to me i wouldnt be surprised if u did it to many...

i dont need to pull it up


maybe i was the ONLY one

but cmon man "cake taker?"
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Truth is he was right, him and a few others here spotted error in me, how my assurance came from actions and I doubted eternal security at points....

They even if only vaguely, knew I needed to renew my mind in a few areas and despite me coming against them....


dc
magenta
bill
blue
eg
vco
ariel
fourthangel
truthtalk
preacher4truth
pennedd
undergrace
tourist
willyT

and others all were only as harsh as i was and never ignored me and kept trying to help shine light on the truth... because they love the truth and want to share it



(where as many banned members tried to break me down when i was delivered from revolving door salvation.... fran,ralph,PJ and others)
 
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Lightskin said:
Still waiting for you to support your lies with Scripture. Come on man, you’ve been called out; put up or shut up.
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Against OSAS
Hebrews 10:26-31, 2 Peter 2:20-21, Ezekiel 18:24-32, Ezekiel 33:12-13, John 15:6, Revelation 3:5, Exodus 32:30-31, Genesis 3:1-6, 1 John 2:3-4, 1 John 3:7-8, 1 John 3:10, Luke 15:11-32, Luke 12:42-46, Titus 1:16,
 
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Against OSAS
Hebrews 10:26-31, 2 Peter 2:20-21, Ezekiel 18:24-32, Ezekiel 33:12-13, John 15:6, Revelation 3:5, Exodus 32:30-31, Genesis 3:1-6, 1 John 2:3-4, 1 John 3:7-8, 1 John 3:10, Luke 15:11-32, Luke 12:42-46, Titus 1:16,
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oh goodness... if you think any of these speak against sons of God no longer being sons of God, you are way off
 
PS said:
Against OSAS
Hebrews 10:26-31, 2 Peter 2:20-21, Ezekiel 18:24-32, Ezekiel 33:12-13, John 15:6, Revelation 3:5, Exodus 32:30-31, Genesis 3:1-6, 1 John 2:3-4, 1 John 3:7-8, 1 John 3:10, Luke 15:11-32, Luke 12:42-46, Titus 1:16,
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These scriptures pertain to the unfaithful. People who hear about Jesus but don’t have faith in Him.
 
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OneOfHis said:
We all in a way are like the guy in the story, but we all also are different....

I hope God works in your life not only to remove sin, but also to give you peace and assurance in His promises

that you see exactly what He wants you to see and that you become more and more useful to Him as you grow in your walk....

ultimately we agreed that this man may or may not be one of Gods children (saved) because there can be no clear answer without knowing is God started in him....



this was me

v






If you only look to the primary points... i argued the same thing you did and the same way you did


i said all this implying a saving faith will always work

if you sin you love sin

and you dont need works it is only by faith


this was dishonest of me... and this is only one of the accounts i had used in the past

i personally came after some here as those who justify sin..🤦‍♂️ (especially dcon)

not sure if you will see this but
i wish you only the best
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OSAS?
 
PS said:
Read what I write. They are scriptures against OSAS.

NOT against the faithful.
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The faithful have passed from death to life already...🤔


They have a quickened (made alive) spirit....

These people are saved eternally....

You are looking at the verses with goggles and seeing things that arent in there...😅
 
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OneOfHis said:
The faithful have passed from death to life already...🤔


They have a quickened (made alive) spirit....

These people are saved eternally....

You are looking at the verses with goggles and seeing things that arent in there...😅
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1Jn 3:9-10 KJV
(9) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
(10) In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

You had better not sin.
 
Lightskin said:
These scriptures pertain to the unfaithful. People who hear about Jesus but don’t have faith in Him.
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They are about Christians who fall by the wayside.

Heb 10:21-26 KJV
(21) And having an high priest over the house of God;
(22) Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
(23) Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
(24) And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
(25) Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
(26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
 
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