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Discern said:
No. You are showing that you don’t read CONTEXT. He said “ain’t that the truth” to a personal attack. And I was not being argumentative, I was replying to posts. I guess replying is argumentative if you don’t say what someone wants you to say.
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Let it go! You are shooting yourself in the foot.
 
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Discern said:
Gods works in us? You mean like a new nature? I concur. A new nature leads to newness of life, if not sooner than later

So you kind of made my point
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I posted an example of this within an hour (i believe) of me hearing your question the first time... You and I also agreed on the over all point at one time as well.

Again .... for the 10th(?) time... your approach or "experimenting" and "stirring" was the largest issue.

You just keep playing games...

"Some people feel any other perspective being stated is argumentative."

When that describes no one here.


I could go back and keep quoting you over but proving you wrong on multiple occasions so far has been unfruitful.

I was done then you quoted me to respond to EG.

Please stop quoting me, I don't like beating dead horses.
 
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OneOfHis said:
I posted an example of this within an hour (i believe) of me hearing your question the first time... You and I also agreed on the over all point at one time as well.

Again .... for the 10th(?) time... your approach or "experimenting" and "stirring" was the largest issue.

You just keep playing games...

"Some people feel any other perspective being stated is argumentative."

When that describes no one here.


I could go back and keep quoting you over but proving you wrong on multiple occasions so far has been unfruitful.

I was done then you quoted me to respond to EG.

Please stop quoting me, I don't like beating dead horses.
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Done with me. 😀
 
Discern said:
Yes they must hear the gospel. Has nothing to do with what you’re replying to. Because everyone has received some light and sinned against it. So ok, they’re rejecting the light that has been given

Romans 3:1-23 agrees with my position.

Morality is not partial obedience. Not in Gods eyes. So moral unbelievers is an oxymoron if morality is based on Gods standard, not man’s. And it is
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Show me where I said anything about moral unbelievers and I disagree that some have been shown a little light....Jesus said they were in darkness until this very day did he not? A little light seems to contradict being in darkness.....!
 
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Discern said:
Dcontroversal- I call people names but it’s ok because Jesus and John the Baptist did too. What do you call that?

Funny, you would call me out for something no different than what you do.
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where did I call you a name pal.....again embellishing what I say.....not good and the fact I use sarcasm at times, heated pointed statements and occasionally a ditect pointed name is no different than the men of the bible...
 
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dcontroversal said:
Show me where I said anything about moral unbelievers and I disagree that some have been shown a little light....Jesus said they were in darkness until this very day did he not? A little light seems to contradict being in darkness.....!
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The whole rejecting Jesus thing was in the context of morality

Context. Context. Context
 
Discern said:
Does the Bible say I cannot speak the same things the apostles said? I spoke a lot about grace, salvation etc, but I guess we only discuss part of the council of God?
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This is a retarded reply.....I said quit comparing yourself to the apostles....NOT to speak the word of God which they were inspired to pen.....man you are really starting to show that you have no problem twisting what we saw and or skewing it.....
 
Discern said:
If you had


If you had put on your thinking hat, you would have realized that some opponents of NOSAS here have accused OSAS of using grace as a license to sin. One possible answer to that is if a person is using grace as a license to sin, it is possible they were never saved. Nothing controversial. The alternative would be that everyone who uses grace as a license to sin is definitely saved, and I know you wouldn't say that. Only a madman would say that.

Sometimes your arguments are self defeating. As evidenced by your objection to me saying "if one sins licentiously, it is possible, they were never saved." Simple and self evident, to most anyways.
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ARE you dense?

I have been battling this farce peddled by the workers for and salvation losers since I have been on this site (6 years) and for the last 34 years as a saved child of GOD....PAUL fought the same fight

and the underlined is equally ignorant as I have already stated as much.....!!
 
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dcontroversal said:
This is a retarded reply.....I said quit comparing yourself to the apostles....NOT to speak the word of God which they were inspired to pen.....man you are really starting to show that you have no problem twisting what we saw and or skewing it.....
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You said quit comparing myself to the apostles because I did what?
 
dcontroversal said:
ARE you dense?

I have been battling this farce peddled by the workers for and salvation losers since I have been on this site (6 years) and for the last 34 years as a saved child of GOD....PAUL fought the same fight

and the underlined is equally ignorant as I have already stated as much.....!!
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Don’t miss the rest of the post. Context context. Context
 
Discern said:
Did you consider context when you replied to me?
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dcontroversal said:
You are off the rails pal.......not good.....and you accused me of saying something I did not say........what does that make you?
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Follow the trail.

start at the post you are referring to. Go backwards

124, 094

123,886

123,881

123,879

Or go forward.

124,094

123,886

123,881

123,879

Did you not do a little scrolling to see what you were replying to?
It’s called context. Is it taught anymore?
 
eternally-gratefull said:
There is one problem

while your motive is ok, your way to go about it is flawed

they love to use senerio us or hypotheticals like you do

what if...

they use the same sins you used, immorality, sexual sin, etc.

their hypotheticals are flawed. Because it does not account for the fact that ever sin in Gods eyes has the penalty of death, and in reality, they are no better than the sinners they are judging, the fact they have not come to this conclusion just proves they have not yet fully repented, they still think they have some good in them, or they would never judge certain people (onlyGod can judge)

in what you did, you supported them, and basically gave them more ammunition. Because you made the same mistake they did. Using a hypothetical that does not support your cause. .
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Exactly......and MY point is.....the bible already covers all of this...there is NO NEED to make up some new scenario to try and prove a point the bible already makes........
 
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