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LoneGirl02 said:
Yes, you explained it very well. And, I absolutely agree..

What about the verse in the Bible where Jesus says in Matthew 24:13 that "But he shall who endure to the end shall be saved?"

Does that still highlight OSAS?

Honestly, Once Saves, Always Saved...does confuse me a little bit🤔
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Giving our life over to Christ is a life changing experience that needs to endure to the end.
 
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EleventhHour said:
I do not agree with Spurgeon then... and might I add this has been a central theme for you from the start..."perserverance of the saints" as taught by John Calvin and those that ascribe to his dogma.
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Nothing is certain in this life regardless of what the OSAS people say.
 
Discern said:
Not judging anyone. No one is on trial here. Do I need to remind you about what YOU said about what saved people do not do?
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Remind me if faith

Hypotheticals are dangerous because the do not resemble real life

especially in a salvation thread. It feeds the lawyers
 
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EleventhHour said:
License to sin .... is a reference that sin can and will be committed because we know salvation is unconditional.

However no needs a licence to sin....so once again the term is meaningless.
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That means you can do whatever you like.
 
Discern said:
I have more than one. But we’ve already discussed the difference between besetting sin and what John said about a lifestyle of sin. You and I were in agreement about what the apostle John said about Christians and sin. Remember?
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That’s what god says

We can not judge though only god can
 
Discern said:
the answer to my question can be found in FIRST JOHN 3:) and other places...

The answer is yes, if I am so sinful that I can leave my wife and live in adultery for the rest of my life, it is POSSIBLE that I have never been saved. Simple and irrefutable
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You may have been saved at first....
 
Discern said:
Exactly WHO am I judging here? No one is on trial here. I have not mentioned one name or applied my question to one person. The only one I apply it to is myself. You cannot find one place where I judged anyone.
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Sorry I do not see this
I see lawyers taking your words and using them against us
 
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