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Gregoryp said:
so 6164 pages of posts, and all it come to down is the reason for the resurrection, to be forgiven for all past and future sins, on the proviso that you repent and distance yourself from the world and its desires. So, if you go to church Sunday, then go to Las Vegas to gamble, watch pole dancers, and have a night with a prostitute, then woe betide you. Its one or the other, its Jesus and his way, or its the worlds way, you cant have both. And yes, preventing sin is a lifelong process, do it wilfully and take the resurrection for granted, then see you in the other place no one wants to visit.
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We evangelicals teach that Obediance is PART OF the AGAPE LOVE, that HE poured into our heart (human spirit), Rom. 5:5; and NEVER HAS BEEN PART OF SALVATION, John 14:15, & 1 John 5:3. Most of us on this site attend evangelical style of Churches that Teach OSAS.

It sounds like you have bought into the lie about OSOS, that is peddled by Armenian style of Churches ? ? ?
 
oyster67 said:
Because He doesn't want them to become castaways.
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Wrong.....to yield the peaceable fruits of righteousness and he whips because HE DOES NOT CAST AWAY....that word means unusable for the task at hand and is applied unto Paul and his ministry...not his salvation.....come on guys.....start utilizing CONTEXT instead of hanging verses on a point not made by scripture.....!!
 
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dcontroversal said:
There is no condemnation for those in Christ genius.....
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That is why it is important for us to have our lights trimmed and burning when He returns.

Matthew 25
25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
25:2 And five of them were wise, and five [were] foolish.
25:3 They that [were] foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
25:9 But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
 
Luke 9
9:23 And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
9:24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
9:25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?
 
dcontroversal said:
Wrong.....to yield the peaceable fruits of righteousness and he whips because HE DOES NOT CAST AWAY....that word means unusable for the task at hand and is applied unto Paul and his ministry...not his salvation.....come on guys.....start utilizing CONTEXT instead of hanging verses on a point not made by scripture.....!!
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Paul was used mightily by God. He was a bad man in his previous life. Have you ever thought of asking God to do the same.
 
PS said:
Jesus gave us 50 commandments. Does OSAS reject them?
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God gives us much more than that

yet He also showed us we can not obey them all perfectly, and we will never live up to his standard. That’s WHY he came to earth,

you need to study the law more. It seems to have not yet brought you to Christ.
 
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