For the Truth of Gods Word to be seen, not mans interpretation, that sometimes gets it twisted just enough to render it void.
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For the Truth of Gods Word to be seen, not mans interpretation, that sometimes gets it twisted just enough to render it void.
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It is not about mans interpretation.... it is about understanding the scripture within the historical-grammatical-contextual background with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
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1343 dikaiosune righteousness, justice
Integrity, virtue, purity of life, uprightness, correctness in thinking ,feeling, and acting
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
The PERVERSION of the Word of God is to accept by grace the GIFT OF SALVATION through faith, (Gods Word) then turn around to preach "DON'T FOLLOW" "DON'T DO" (mans' perversion of it)
(with the reasons being "can't add to salvation, salvation can't be lost, don't labor, rest, and continued promotion of division by defining all laws/commands as the law of Moses when ever works or law is brought up and by saying Gentiles not under law)
Matthew 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock
Matthew 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Matthew 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand
Matthew 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
That’s one heck of an outfit the person is wearing behind the kitty.
I have never heard even the most hardcore free grace people like *Unnamed famous preacher who starts with J and ends with oseph and last name is royalty* teach "don't follow, don't do" WHO DOES THAT? This is brought up over and over again yet I aint never seen no one say that.
There are around 1050 if I am not mistaken, but I would check that out, I'm not sure. See post #113,518 for the 10 commandments,
Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Matthew 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Matthew 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Revelation 22:14
Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by its gates.
Revelation 22:14 does not have the words "do his commandments" in the text.
Are you aware of that?
Galatians 3:1-2
O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
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And you know what else is funny ... if you try to start a conversation with yourself (which I did for fun) you will get his error message...
"You may not start a conversation with yourself"
How many times today have you fallen short of this COMMAND IN THE NT ? ? ?
Matthew 22:37 (HCSB)
37 He said to him, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.
well, you see, here is twisting- pushing the lie that the Law is divided into pieces, when it is 100% not.
I have given you many examples of this, you have rejected all of them, which is why I say you are willfully blind.
oh, and here is another- what was brought to king Josiah, and what did he read to the people- the BOOK of the Law.
book. singular. the book was referred to as " it". again singular.
be waiting to see how attempt to spin this....
But I think I like the interlinear even better.
Blessed {are} those washing the robes of them that will be the right of them to the tree of life and by the gates they shall enter into the city.
No, I was not aware of that. Thank you.
I love stuff like this . Sorry its taken me so long to get back but it was worth the long ponder.
Must have make you think
Ezekiel 40:44 And without the inner gate were the chambers of the singers in the inner court, which was at the side of the north gate; and their prospect was toward the south: one at the side of the east gate having the prospect toward the north.
Ezekiel 40:45 And he said unto me, This chamber, whose prospect is toward the south, is for the priests, the keepers of the charge of the house.
Ezekiel 40:46 And the chamber whose prospect is toward the north is for the priests, the keepers of the charge of the altar these are the sons of Zadok among the sons of Levi, which come near to the LORD to minister unto him.
Ezekiel 40:47 So he measured the court, an hundred cubits long, and an hundred cubits broad, foursquare; and the altar that was before the house.
Ezekiel 40:48 And he brought me to the porch of the house, and measured each post of the porch, five cubits on this side, and five cubits on that side: and the breadth of the gate was three cubits on this side, and three cubits on that side.
Ezekiel 40:49 The length of the porch was twenty cubits, and the breadth eleven cubits, and he brought me by the steps whereby they went up to it: and there were pillars by the posts, one on this side, and another on that side.
I did go back and read the chapter and have been pondering it and I can understand why they chose to translate it that way on one level but it does lose a lot when put into context of the Millennium. But what a perfect verse for beginning and deeper at the same time. Thank you again, really truly honestly. I think it had to do with
Revelation 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
Revelation 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Revelation 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
Anyway,
Do you follow the NT commandments?
We receive the Spirit by faith. Not by works of the law. Agreed. I didn't even know there were other laws besides the 10 commandments for a embarrassing long time, didn't really see the need for the OT back then either. It would seem I went backwards though it (doesn't feel that way now though). I loved God and felt His love when I only knew Him through the Spirit. But in a moment one day, that all changed, and I quickly came to realize, I didn't have a clue who God truly was or how deep His love went.
But, does that change anything about doing works, or keeping all the commands/laws of the NT? I always knew I was saved and never once (until a couple months ago) did it cross my mind that "the works" I was doing in the name of the Lord had anything to do with my salvation. (never gonna change, apparently a good thing around here)
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
God will know our intent. God will JUDGE that intent or lack of when studying the law of Moses and following it in the spirit of it, Christ. But as I say, it is impossible to be under, bound, yoked, etc. to something that was rendered null and void 2000 or so years ago by the Life, death, and Life of Christ, bringing in the New.
Sounds like "if you aint' smart" don't even try. But God knows we are foolish and doltish, stupid, so that wouldn't be just.
That is going by "the letter" of it and missing the spiritual meaning or intent "the Letter" was trying to convey. Like following the law but without the love it needed, we being weak in the flesh, glorious as it was.
Jeremiah 4:22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it for in the day that thou eatest thereof " thou shalt surely die".
And the serpent said unto the woman," Ye shall not surely die"
It just takes a tiny twist with a "here is what He really means" to render Gods Word void.
Here are the 10 commandments in the NT, now you find the rest of the Law of Moses in there because if, as you say "they are one" then they will all be found in the NT.
Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Exodus 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Matthew 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
1Timothy 6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up and as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day and stood up for to read.
Luke 23:55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
Luke 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.
Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Matthew 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Exodus 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Matthew 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,