Not By Works

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BillG said:
I can't recall where I said that all sins are equal.

As a child who was sexually abused, thrown out at 14 by my mother and fostered by a Christian and sexually abused by him.

Further more I was sexually abused at a young age by a cousin and an uncle.

So I understand the seriousness of sin and that some are more serious than others.
Given the consequences of said sins.

However for me when Jesus died on the cross the more serious sins were forgiven and those who come to Jesus having committed said sins are forgiven. As a result God does not judge them as he did in the O.T

As for those who on judgement day who have committed such sins I have no idea whether they will be judged more harshly.
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All sins can be forgiven except Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. What those are aren't Fully explained. It only was mentioned when Jesus accused of Being in league with the Devil; The concept of “blasphemy against the Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22–30 and Matthew 12:22–32. The term blasphemy may be generally defined as “defiant irreverence.” Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit has to do with accusing Jesus Christ of being demon-possessed instead of Spirit-filled.
https://www.gotquestions.org/blasphemy-Holy-Spirit.html

But if the sin is so grievous or some have gotten so attached to the sin that they resent asking for forgiveness or letting it go or if a person repents the gift of grace and returns to serving the law, knowingly preaches a false gospel such as saved by works, not by grace. Are they at risk? I don't know but I wouldn't recommend it.
 
Melach said:
this man is great. i want to kiss him he teach me more than many churches already in combined
i think he is a great father figure for many christian men. i didnt have father close to me ever i wish i had dcon as my father. something good to loook up to. marine who worked hard and is ready. spiritually active too what more can you ask for? you guys dont know teh quesitons he has answered to me in private
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That's DC.

A spiritual father.

I love him dearly, we have not agreed at times on certain things but we still love each other.

He hates what is false but will walk and talk and spend time with those seeking Jesus.

Ps if ever you meet him don't try to kiss him. He has stinky breath😎

On a side not if ever I cross over the pond he promised me beer and steak.
And I'm holding him to that.
 
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BillG said:
That's our big boy coffee making machine above.
Not sure why it's sideways.

Bean grinder.
Makes lots of different coffee related drinks.

It cost a lot but it paid did itself within a year.
We used to have a coffee pod machine.
Expensive and a lot of plastic waste.

I try to limit my coffee.
I loved a strong black coffee, but to much sends my heart all over the place.
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On the waste part I use refillable pods or those that can break down/recycled no plastic. :)

Coffee for me is now a treat, one cup was becoming two etc., so I cut back.
 
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UnderGrace said:
On the waste part I use refillable pods or those that can break down/recycled no plastic. :)

Coffee for me is now a treat, one cup was becoming two etc., so I cut back.
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We dont have refillable pods over here.

I wasn't a heavy coffee drinker, or so I thought so.
I had 2 flat whites at lunch time.
That equated to six shots of caffeine in one hour.

I actually went decaffeinated when I stopped smoking last year.

So only have a proper coffee at the weekend.
Just one or two.
 
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@BillG its a miracle you are doing normal after all you went through. i know so many christians who have also gone through things like that. sadly it seems very common. or maybe those people just always become christians.
 
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TooFastTurtle said:
Those people would be saved.

I have never met anyone who teaches salvation by feeding the poor, or any other works of righteousness which we have done. Our job is to repent and believe the Gospel. This can be done, being disabled or unable to walk will not prevent this from taking place. God is the one who searches the hearts of men.
Preaching repentance and faith is not works of the law being preached, but rather, biblical salvation.
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@TooFastTurtle
My reply was to @DeighAnn , we are saved by grace through faith , not of works , lest none of us boast...
 
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Melach said:
@BillG its a miracle you are doing normal after all you went through. i know so many christians who have also gone through things like that. sadly it seems very common. or maybe those people just always become christians.
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Mate, it is very common.
It started at the fall and will continue till Jesus calls judgement day.
Jesus came to heal the broken hearted, bruised reeds.
 
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BillG said:
Mate, it is very common.
It started at the fall and will continue till Jesus calls judgement day.
Jesus came to heal the broken hearted, bruised reeds.
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do you speak that glasgow english that i cant understand? the southwest scottish english i can understand and inverness.
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Hi D...
What about people who are so disabled , can`t walk or do lots of work , what about the thief on the cross...
What about the people who Christ saves when they are on their deathbed , that have not done good works , where do they stand in Gods grace...

I see something with the thief on the cross , he reminds me of those on their deathbed , BELIEVING in Jesus Christ as their Savior......
...xox...
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Are all "works" physical? Not for me, reading, writing, conversing, an ear, a scripture.... And the disabled can be better witnesses than anyone, don't you think? As for the death bed, Gods Will be done. Like the baby or child. God had this Plan way before we were created. So on those subjects, I don't speculate I just know "God is just".
 
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Rosemaryx said:
@TooFastTurtle
My reply was to @DeighAnn , we are saved by grace through faith , not of works , lest none of us boast...
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@TooFastTurtle What do you think they do at rescue missions? They minister and witness through kindness. Food and clothing gets sinners in the door and they hear the Gospel. Many repent in the process. We don't consider it works because it is a blessing. And we are grateful that the Lord allows us and helps us to do it.
 
DeighAnn said:
Are all "works" physical? Not for me, reading, writing, conversing, an ear, a scripture.... And the disabled can be better witnesses than anyone, don't you think? As for the death bed, Gods Will be done. Like the baby or child. God had this Plan way before we were created. So on those subjects, I don't speculate I just know "God is just".
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KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND DO LOTS OF WORKS
What about those who ant do or have never done lots of works as you said ...
Like the people on their deathbeds who have accepted the calling from God...

You seem to state a lot about works , I am sure you know works do not add to anything to our Salvation , it is all Gods grace , but works follow after that God calls us to walk in , and yet there are those who cannot do works yet are still saved...xox...
 
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Rosemaryx said:
KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND DO LOTS OF WORKS
What about those who ant do or have never done lots of works as you said ...
Like the people on their deathbeds who have accepted the calling from God...

You seem to state a lot about works , I am sure you know works do not add to anything to our Salvation , it is all Gods grace , but works follow after that God calls us to walk in , and yet there are those who cannot do works yet are still saved...xox...
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You been gifted Salvation. (Not going into all I know you know and I know of getting to that) You are a child of God. Now what do you do?
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Walk the path God has set for me to walk according to His will :)
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Do you find His will written in His Word? I myself do. Here is something that "lit up" for me as I was studying about the" Millennial Temple" I've cut it way short to get to the one point, but a good study

Ezekiel 43:12 This is the law of the house; Upon the top of the mountain the whole limit thereof round about shall be most holy. Behold, this is the law of the house.

Ezekiel 43:18 And he said unto me, Son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; These are the ordinances of the altar in the day when they shall make it, to offer burnt offerings thereon, and to sprinkle blood thereon.

Ezekiel 43:19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord GOD, a young bullock for a sin offering.

Did you catch that??? Zadok - APPROACH THE LORD


Ezekiel 44:10 And the Levites that are gone away far from me, when Israel went astray, which went astray away from me after their idols; they shall even bear their iniquity.

Ezekiel 44:11 Yet they shall be ministers in my sanctuary, having charge at the gates of the house, and ministering to the house: they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister unto them.

Ezekiel 44:12 Because they ministered unto them before their idols, and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity; therefore have I lifted up mine hand against them, saith the Lord GOD, and they shall bear their iniquity.

Ezekiel 44:13 And they shall not come near unto me, to do the office of a priest unto me, nor to come near to any of my holy things, in the most holy place: but they shall bear their shame, and their abominations which they have committed.


But, The Levitical Priests, those who had others doing the "work" they should have been doing, SHALL NOT come near unto the Lord, or His things.

THEY SHALL BEAR THEIR SHAME.

But it certainly gave new meaning to:

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

2 Timothy 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

2 Timothy 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
 
DeighAnn said:
KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND DO LOTS OF WORKS
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Hey DeighAnn

Here is something you will not like...;)

Resting in what Christ has already done is our spiritual warfare.
Resting in what Christ has already done is our obedience of faith.
Resting in what Christ has already done is our faith in action.

Jesus is our true Sabbath rest.
 
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BillG said:
I understand what you are saying and I know the consequences of such in the O.T and how God viewed it.

My concern was with the quote you made



My concern I addressed in the following post



No problem with what you said bro, in fact if we look at the O.T law there is actually a lot of grace in it, even in recompense for accidental sin.

So my friend, I love my brother from another mother.

Just want to ask a question if you do not mind.
It has arisen from your responses to my posts.

On judgement day will God judge those have not placed their faith in Jesus and have committed the more sins more harshly than those who have not?
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BillG said:
I understand what you are saying and I know the consequences of such in the O.T and how God viewed it.

My concern was with the quote you made



My concern I addressed in the following post



No problem with what you said bro, in fact if we look at the O.T law there is actually a lot of grace in it, even in recompense for accidental sin.

So my friend, I love my brother from another mother.

Just want to ask a question if you do not mind.
It has arisen from your responses to my posts.

On judgement day will God judge those have not placed their faith in Jesus and have committed the more sins more harshly than those who have not?
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Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. 14But it will be more bearable at the judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you. 15And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to heaven? No, you will be brought down to Hades
 
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