So did Leastamongmany.
Easily offended they are.
Always pointing the finger at everyone else and not seeing their own error.
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Easily offended they are.
Always pointing the finger at everyone else and not seeing their own error.
Exactly.....I had forgot about her....but you are correct......
you should be. he proved you completely wrong.
now, it seems to me that a person with a new heart, guided by the Holy Sprit would acknowledge that, you know, be honest...
Not sure he knows. It seemed like he was just quoting it because he read some other poster using it.
One of the 60% or one of the 30%, still a CHRISTIAN, Less Crowns is all.
YOU SAID IT WRONG. IT IS YOUR POSSESSION, the moment you RECEIVE the FREE GIFT.
1 Peter 1:3-5 (HCSB)
3 Praise the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. According to His great mercy, He has given us a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
4 and into an inheritance that is imperishable, uncorrupted, and unfading, kept in heaven for you.
5 You are being protected by God’s power through faith for a salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
SO NOW YOUR TRUE COLORS COME OUT. It appears you are the Catholic TROLL that haunts this site.
I dont negate what you share of the Word of God, as we shall all receive according to our work. "As we trust in the Living God who is the saviour of all men, espescially of them that believe." Believing implies following "In obedience of Faith." "Whoever claims to abide in Him must walk as Jesus walked."
"This is the Work of God that you believe on Him whom He has sent." "Its no longer I that lives but Christ that Lives in Me." "Whoever does not deny himself and bear the cross and come after Me, cannot be My disciple."
"I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years."
These are holy: they followed the Lord with their whole heart. Not possible by works, but by Grace, the influence of God by His Spirit to learn of Jesus, "One thing needful." I'm not here to encourage you to go on to perfection, these are chosen by God. "Many are called but few are chosen." "Strive to enter in at the straight gate for many shall seek to enter in and shall not be able." Unable because they dont "Trust in the Grace of God" "One thing I do, forgetting what lies behing, I press on... to go on to peffection." You teach that there is nothing we can do. "The wise shall understand but none of the wicked shall undeestand."
Unless we accep a sentence of death to our selfish existance, as babes in Christ quareling among ourselves, we willl not be permitted to go on to perfection, to obtain a crown of Life. As we judge others we are judged with the same judgment. This is your udgment not mine, and the Lord told me: Let him remain a babe.
My bro Wes [CERTIFIED OG] said something very wise, check this out:
"Man is the only creature whose desires increase as he is fed. Its non-stop perpetual pleasure chasing if we dont pump the breaks on the [stuff] we supposedly want and the external influences we think will bring us happiness "
If only someone had told me that in my early 20s! I remember when I was overweight I always used the excuse of "Well I cant AFFORD to gym", then when I got confronted about it and got asked "do you own shoes?" thats when I realized AIIGHT I gotta stop making excuses. Same thing for fornication; I already had an excuse lined up "WEELL, im not gonna be getting married for a long time, I havent done it in a long time so, I need a day off" EXCUSES. Thats one thing every junkie has. I stopped making excuses on that when I saw a man in a wheelchair at the grocery store, then my mind for some reason jumped into "I know he isnt fornicating" (dont know why, im crazy), then my second thought was "HEY; Paul and many of the church fathers could live great lives as single men, WHY CANT I?". That was then, I dont got that single problem anymore, but still the point remains:
Its all about dedication, that first thought in the morning is really important, my suggestion is to THANK GOD first thing in the morning. THE FIRST THOUGHT.
As the Bible testifies thru SOLOMON, pleasure chasing and giving in and taking the easy way out of everything and not struggling and not suffering and looking for a way out WONT BRING happiness. So lets not do it. Lets work hard, work smart, work for God, give God the glory and lets not make excuses and try to learn from the stress and negative circumstances around us and try to grow from them spiritually.
I wrote all this, I have more on my mind i'd like to say but im thinking: IM CRAZY; nobody gonna read this, this is COMPLETELY offtopic and got nothing to do with nothing, but since im a selfish bonehead I will post this, because I took time writing it and MAYBE its motivation to someone, I know im one that enjoys reading stuff like that. MAYBE i should start my own thread for my ramblings, or a blog or something! Any tips appreciated!
"Man is the only creature whose desires increase as he is fed. Its non-stop perpetual pleasure chasing if we dont pump the breaks on the [stuff] we supposedly want and the external influences we think will bring us happiness "
If only someone had told me that in my early 20s! I remember when I was overweight I always used the excuse of "Well I cant AFFORD to gym", then when I got confronted about it and got asked "do you own shoes?" thats when I realized AIIGHT I gotta stop making excuses. Same thing for fornication; I already had an excuse lined up "WEELL, im not gonna be getting married for a long time, I havent done it in a long time so, I need a day off" EXCUSES. Thats one thing every junkie has. I stopped making excuses on that when I saw a man in a wheelchair at the grocery store, then my mind for some reason jumped into "I know he isnt fornicating" (dont know why, im crazy), then my second thought was "HEY; Paul and many of the church fathers could live great lives as single men, WHY CANT I?". That was then, I dont got that single problem anymore, but still the point remains:
Its all about dedication, that first thought in the morning is really important, my suggestion is to THANK GOD first thing in the morning. THE FIRST THOUGHT.
As the Bible testifies thru SOLOMON, pleasure chasing and giving in and taking the easy way out of everything and not struggling and not suffering and looking for a way out WONT BRING happiness. So lets not do it. Lets work hard, work smart, work for God, give God the glory and lets not make excuses and try to learn from the stress and negative circumstances around us and try to grow from them spiritually.
I wrote all this, I have more on my mind i'd like to say but im thinking: IM CRAZY; nobody gonna read this, this is COMPLETELY offtopic and got nothing to do with nothing, but since im a selfish bonehead I will post this, because I took time writing it and MAYBE its motivation to someone, I know im one that enjoys reading stuff like that. MAYBE i should start my own thread for my ramblings, or a blog or something! Any tips appreciated!
You’re causing stumbling blocks unto others. You’re not going to like the Bema Seat.
Samson drank & went near dead bodies - both of which break the nazarite vow. he also womanized. but his strength did not leave him until his hair was cut - why?
"For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them."
"Not by the filty rags witch we have done but by the Work of God alone, "Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ." We have sufiscient Grace to do the Work of God: to follow Him in His sufferings and death, to become new creatures in Christ. Babes are divided quareling among themselves and can not understand the mistery of God gathering all things in Himself." "None of the wicked will understand but the wise shall understand." "Christ is made to us wisdom from God."
"You are still controlled by your sinful nature. You are jealous of one another and quarrel with each other. Doesn’t that prove you are controlled by your sinful nature? Aren’t you living like people of the world?"
Now let my soul rest in peace, I have done what i could to show that "Without Love I am nothing." "The Love of God poured out in our hearrs by the Holy Ghost." "This is the worlk of God to believe on Him whom He has sent." To walk in His Love, "If anyone sais He Lives im Him he is to walk as Jesus walked." We are only able to die for the Faith, full of the Love of God. The disciples experience without the Holy Ghost: they were powerless. Holding on to a life for ourselves in the wilderness, we are unable to enter the promise land, tho having left slavery, may momentarily feel we have arived, but as babes we are unable to do the Work of God, and think nothing is required of us. Many will remain babes and will not have part in the first Resurrection. There is a number of overcomers to be fulfilled. "They were told to rest a while longer until the number of their fellow servants who were to be killed as they were shoulld be fulfilled."
Yes, we are all sinners SAVED BY GRACE. Anyone who says he does not sin, IS LYING.
Some that are more Mature than others sin LESS, but we are all sinners.
I can prove that he or she is a sinner with one portion of Scripture:
1 Peter 2:13-17 (NKJV)
13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
16 as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.
17 Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king. [.If you are an American, that would be President Donald Trump.]
You are SINNING, if you are 1 mph over the posted Speed Limit.
You are SINNING IF YOU PARK LIKE THIS ONE INCH OVER THE LINE, OR HAVE ANOTHER PARKING VIOLATATION.
You are SINNING IF YOU FAIL to clean up after your dog poops.
There are many other Ordinances from the City, County, and State, should I list them all ? ? ?
There are two experiences of the Holy Ghost. Neither have i yet received the experience of boldness to speak the Word in the face of persecution. "When He the Spirit of Truth comes, He will guide you into all Truth: for He shall not speak of Himself, but what He shall hear, that shall He speak and He will show you things to come."
Carried into His death to all that is not of God:
"Lord consider their threats and enable your servants to speak your word with boldness. Stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of your Holy Servant Jesus.' After they prayed the place where they were meeting was shaken and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the Word of God with boldness, and the multitude of them that believed was of one heart and one soul."
These believers already received the Holy Spirit from the Apostles, and were praying for the anointing of boldness in the face of persecution: to receive power to stand firm. "Rejoice in the Lord your God: for He has given you the former rain moderately and He will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain and the latter rain in the first month." In the example of Elisha who asked for a double portion of the Spirit of Elijah, "You asked a hard thing' said Elijah, 'If you see me when I am taken from you it will be yours, otherwise it will not." Elisha had to persevere through distractions on the journey, just as we learn to persevere to see the Lord in our situation. "I am with you always, even to the end of time." "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. Before long the world will not see Me anymore, but you will see Me. Because I Live, you will live also. On that day you will realize that I Am in My Father and you in Me, and I Am in you. Whoever has My commands and keeps them is the one who Loves Me. The ones who Love Me will be loved by My Father, and I too will Love them and reveal Myself to them."
His Spirit guides us to find the secret Ladder ascending to God along the road of solitude: to persevere and cease from ourselves is harsh in the beginning, seeming weary and never-ending in progress and as we learn not to lose sight of the Lord, becomes easy to find Him in everything. "Pay attention to how you hear. Everyone who does will be given more, but those who don't will lose the little they think they have." God is near when we acknowledge our poverty and need: He never forsakes us, we forsake Him and fall that we may learn to continually repent and turn our will to His will. Leave all your cares in His hand and consent to the Cross all that is not of God until temptations lose their hold.
Pray that you may enter into rest:
”Let us therefore fear, lest a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest.” Paul faced dying for the Faith several times and near the end of his life, was able to say, "I have fought a good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the Faith, now there is a crown of Life for me from the Righteous Judge and not for me only but for all who Love His appearing." The fellowship of His sufferings requires our whole heart. "It's no longer I that live but Christ that Lives in me." "He that is joined to the Lord becomes one Spirit with Him." "Let us go on to perfection, and this we will do if God permits." "What things were gain for me, those I counted loss for Christ. I count all things but loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things and consider them waste, that I may gain Christ, and be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but through Faith in Christ, the righteousness that comes from God by Faith. That I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being made conformed to His death; persevering that I may attain the resurrection of the dead."
Carried into His death to all that is not of God:
"Lord consider their threats and enable your servants to speak your word with boldness. Stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of your Holy Servant Jesus.' After they prayed the place where they were meeting was shaken and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the Word of God with boldness, and the multitude of them that believed was of one heart and one soul."
These believers already received the Holy Spirit from the Apostles, and were praying for the anointing of boldness in the face of persecution: to receive power to stand firm. "Rejoice in the Lord your God: for He has given you the former rain moderately and He will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain and the latter rain in the first month." In the example of Elisha who asked for a double portion of the Spirit of Elijah, "You asked a hard thing' said Elijah, 'If you see me when I am taken from you it will be yours, otherwise it will not." Elisha had to persevere through distractions on the journey, just as we learn to persevere to see the Lord in our situation. "I am with you always, even to the end of time." "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. Before long the world will not see Me anymore, but you will see Me. Because I Live, you will live also. On that day you will realize that I Am in My Father and you in Me, and I Am in you. Whoever has My commands and keeps them is the one who Loves Me. The ones who Love Me will be loved by My Father, and I too will Love them and reveal Myself to them."
His Spirit guides us to find the secret Ladder ascending to God along the road of solitude: to persevere and cease from ourselves is harsh in the beginning, seeming weary and never-ending in progress and as we learn not to lose sight of the Lord, becomes easy to find Him in everything. "Pay attention to how you hear. Everyone who does will be given more, but those who don't will lose the little they think they have." God is near when we acknowledge our poverty and need: He never forsakes us, we forsake Him and fall that we may learn to continually repent and turn our will to His will. Leave all your cares in His hand and consent to the Cross all that is not of God until temptations lose their hold.
Pray that you may enter into rest:
”Let us therefore fear, lest a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest.” Paul faced dying for the Faith several times and near the end of his life, was able to say, "I have fought a good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the Faith, now there is a crown of Life for me from the Righteous Judge and not for me only but for all who Love His appearing." The fellowship of His sufferings requires our whole heart. "It's no longer I that live but Christ that Lives in me." "He that is joined to the Lord becomes one Spirit with Him." "Let us go on to perfection, and this we will do if God permits." "What things were gain for me, those I counted loss for Christ. I count all things but loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things and consider them waste, that I may gain Christ, and be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but through Faith in Christ, the righteousness that comes from God by Faith. That I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being made conformed to His death; persevering that I may attain the resurrection of the dead."
Entering contemplation worship is deliverance from ourselves.
Ascending in contemplation worship, by St John of the Cross:
To see ourselves there, without knowing where we are; unknowing in profound solitude, transcending all knowledge: experiencing Peace and Holiness that can’t be held; stammering and withdrawn from senses, overwhelmed and absorbed with thanksgiving beyond words; entering into Wisdom transcending knowledge. To seek union with God alone, whose Love transforms us into new creatures in Christ; dying with Him daily in the reconciliation of the cross, that we may live in Him: wounding our soul in its deepest desire, to bring us in union with Him. He who overcomes is free of himself and his knowledge seems worthless: forgetting created things, feeling abandoned, to ascend in the Love of God whose purpose in creation is for us to share. To ascend in fellowship with God whose Joy is for us to be with Him in eternity.
We all stumble and can fall from abiding in the Grace of God: I have. The Lord had told me 41 years ago: Your going to fall that you may learn to continually repent. I had an idol of woman in my heart. We fall because of rebelion, the sin of witchcraft (desiring control) and stuborness, another God. "None of the wicked shall inderstand but the wise ahall understand." "That i may know Him and the fellowship of His sufering, to be made conforned to His death, percevering that I may attain the Resurrection." = "It is no longer I that lives but Christ."
What does eternal security mean to you? That you will be delivered from hell or that you will have part in the first Resurrection, "Some were tortured, refusing to compromise, that they may attain a better Resurrection. There is only two resurrection. In the second, everyone receives according to their works. These were unable to get past themselves to bear the cross daily and follow Jesus.