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UnderGrace said:
You must be reading the scripture with may pages missing then too bad for you!

“And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
“Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ” (Galatians 4:3–7).

Salvation is a gift and it cannot be earned or worked for in any way, because all glory belongs to God.

You have nothing, not one thing to add to the gift.
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I love WORKING for my FREE GIFTS. smh
 
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JadenS said:
I want them to listen; they are choosing not to.
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This is why..... we do not want to be like the foolish Galatians.

Galatians 1:6-8
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
 
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Melach said:
lol. didnt even respond to what i said.

you and your boyfriend(honestly i believe you are same person, you and jaden) have quoted those verses many times already. i am saying that matthew 24:13 is talking about the tribulation period on earth. look at the context.
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I have no husband,no boyfriend,butI AM in a very serious " til death do I part" relationship with Jesus! just came here today or yesterday and I don't know Jaden,he may be a she you know. It's understanding the word that makes people believe alike!I FOLLOW HIM,JESUS!
 
UnderGrace said:
This is why..... we do not want to be like the foolish Galatians.

Galatians 1:6-8
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
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WHAT ARE YOU IF YOU DON'T PERSEVERE UNTIL THE END?
 
Lightskin said:
I love WORKING for my FREE GIFTS. smh
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Yup! Y'all remember that Pisteou guy we had here for a while? That boy done told us over and over again about "faithing" and "in the greek" its a verb.

But at the end of the day LETS STICK WITH THE ENGLISH, if we cant make it past words like "FREE" and "GIFT". At that point you've reached a level of comprehension where no amount of greek can help.
Pick up an english dictionary and see what the words "FREE" and "GIFT" mean and then we can start looking at the greek words.

On the bright side: We had a succesful soul-winning saturday.
 
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IFOLLOWHIM said:
I have no husband,no boyfriend,butI AM in a very serious " til death do I part" relationship with Jesus! just came here today or yesterday and I don't know Jaden,he may be a she you know. It's understanding the word that makes people believe alike!I FOLLOW HIM,JESUS!
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Works salvationist ^^^^
 
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Melach said:
just a friendly joke, i could have used a more offensive word. i know these two are probably same person so i said it. ifollowhim and jaden are parroting same lines flooding the thread spamming this same thing over and over.
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you know nothing about me,yet you want to project your suppositions.......you're funny!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
JadenS said:
Those who persevered until the end were saved before the beginning of time; they cooperated with the grace of final perseverance.
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Ok you continue to evade.

You said

Therefore not saved before the begining of time..
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Those that do not persevere.

Therefore not saved from the beginning of time as you state.

So salvation can be lost?
 
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IFOLLOWHIM said:
you can answer that better than I,Bill bc I know a person can walk away from God and be backside and NO longer one of His!
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No such animal in the Bible

Either you are a SHEEP or a GOAT. The SHEEP: Jesus will lose NONE of them, but give them eternal life:

Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Joh 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
 
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Lightskin said:
I love WORKING for my FREE GIFTS. smh
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I know Lightskin , so hard to fathom people who try to earn something they cannot earn.

"Self" :rolleyes:.... hence the narrow gate.

I heard the complete Gospel for the first time by a total stranger... and I was shocked that all that time I was completely wrong in my understanding.... trying to be good and earn my way.

I was so relieved, why would I want to work for something already accomplished for me.

Once I understood the work of the cross fully, I realized how illogical it is to think we can add to what has been done and completed.
 
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IFOLLOWHIM said:
you can answer that better than I,Bill bc I know a person can walk away from God and be backside and NO longer one of His!
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I was asking what your thoughts on OSAS is all about to you.

I'm not talking about backsiding (butt I'm sure you meant backslide😎)
 
Hevosmies said:
No such animal in the Bible

Either you are a SHEEP or a GOAT. The SHEEP: Jesus will lose NONE of them, but give them eternal life:

Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Joh 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
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I truly hope you never find out that a person can backslide. Sounds to me like you have way tooooo much man made indoctrination!Israel was continually being found it God in a backslidden state! try studying the word of God for yourself!
 
IFOLLOWHIM said:
I have no husband,no boyfriend,butI AM in a very serious " til death do I part" relationship with Jesus! just came here today or yesterday and I don't know Jaden,he may be a she you know. It's understanding the word that makes people believe alike!I FOLLOW HIM,JESUS!
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All you holding on will avail nothing ... you are actually not able to do this anyway, although you may have some delusion about it.
 
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