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VCO said:
None of us care to read anything you write anymore. We have determined that you are spewing or regurgitating the False Prophet from Stanford University. Try the Christian Forum of TOPIX, they have people there that will fall for anything.
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No, just a Greek word and it's definition.
 
I am convinced there are paid trolls on the internet, they like to go around here and there and cause the younger in Christ to stumble... of course not naming any names ..... just sayin!
 
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Okay, finally someone had the guts to say it!

This is the problem with your understanding, on top of the mountain of evidence I've already built.

The point that your saying we "Believe" the gospel?
IT'S NOT OURS YET !!!!!!!!

We don't have the Spirit of Christ sealed in us yet at that beginning phase, so Christ, His word, and the promises in His word are not ours to claim or believe in. Rom.8:9

There's no such thing as believing in God's word that will result in recieving the Spirit of Christ.
 
UnderGrace said:
I am convinced there are paid trolls on the internet, they like to go around here and there and cause the younger in Christ to stumble... of course not naming any names ..... just sayin!
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You've already stumbled, I think you like it down there. I'm trying to help you up!
 
Maybe we should talk about why you don't want to surrender your lives to Christ. What are you afraid you might have to give up?

This is for anyone who has the capability to be honest.
 
Pisteuo said:
Okay, finally someone had the guts to say it!

This is the problem with your understanding, on top of the mountain of evidence I've already built.

The point that your saying we "Believe" the gospel?
IT'S NOT OURS YET !!!!!!!!

We don't have the Spirit of Christ sealed in us yet at that beginning phase, so Christ, His word, and the promises in His word are not ours to claim or believe in. Rom.8:9

There's no such thing as believing in God's word that will result in recieving the Spirit of Christ.
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There are no phases.... Saved/Justified or Not Saved/Unjustified
 
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Pisteuo said:
Maybe we should talk about why you don't want to surrender your lives to Christ. What are you afraid you might have to give up?

This is for anyone who has the capability to be honest.
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I surrendered my "works of righteousness" in order to gain salvation.


What have you given up? Obviously not technology, maybe that should be on the surrender list?:unsure:
 
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Pisteuo said:
Misrepresentation, what I consider one of the most evil acts one can do in this world. Whether it be misrepresenting someone else as something they are not, or misrepresenting yourself as something your not.
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This need to prove any misrepresentation or it is you that misrepresents. Have you really done a great deal on your subject pisteou? I think its not. Prove me wrong please or the scripture proves you wrong.
 
UnderGrace said:
There are no phases.... Saved/Justified or Not Saved/Unjustified
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Phases is just a poor choice of a word to try and communicate a set of happenings that really can't be explained by words. Maybe that's why you just got rid of all those happenings, and call believe and done?
 
Pisteuo said:
Phases is just a poor choice of a word to try and communicate a set of happenings that really can't be explained by words. Maybe that's why you just got rid of all those happenings, and call believe and done?
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Belief/faith is the instrument...... the gift of salvation is totally God's work!!
 
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Pisteuo said:
No, but it's all I can share with you. I think I've pushed you as hard as the rules here will allow.

One last chance to ask the right question.

Will he do it? Or make it a joke? =
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I am not a mind reader who is "he" referring to?
 
Noose said:
There must be something wrong with this passage then:

Heb 5:7During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. 8Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him 10and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek.



1. No one is being saved from physical death but salvation is about spiritual death. So God had to be saved from physical death according to you? And was Jesus even saved from this so called physical death according to you?

2. The position, 'without sin/ righteous' is also what men are turned to, for salvation; and i don't mean men are being turned to God. So saying Jesus is God and could not be saved is neither here nor there.

3. Did Zacchaeus need the gospel for his salvation?
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What's wrong is your application of the verse and then skewing it by your fantasy gospel not found in scripture!
 
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