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oldethennew said:
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of course, else we wouldn't even be able to have a clue/knowledge to who or what He is or where we are coming from or even if we
can imagine a future for ourselves, that is 'impossible without an Holy intervention...
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Don't you see a presence of the Spirit of Christ, different than the Spirit of Christ being sealed into us as His property?
 
your response is really weird, and we believe 'baitful' and unfruitful = ...
may you question your 'motives' and may they become fruitful to Yeshua and His...
 
UnderGrace said:
I cannot answer something I do not understand.

"Come to Christ" can mean different things to people.

Last chance eh? Good thing I do not believe in chance.
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Hahahha Solomon did say time and chance happen to all ;)

He also said life sucks then you die (paraphrased summation of Ecclesiastes)
 
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UnderGrace said:
I will admit I have a hard time grasping false doctrine, I consider it a good thing.
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You've swallowed the "believe and recieve" false doctrine just fine. In fact you've built your house on it! Oh wait, that would take work! Well, you emagine your house being built on it.

Why can't you explain how you accept Christ? Even though He does the accepting, and the excepting!
 
Faith is the trigger that causes the release of God's unmerited favor, wherein we stand as recipients of this gift...
 
Jesus was the first "goer", the captain, the unchangeable pattern, the point of reference, the benchmark. But God expects us to follow His train.
 
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When Jesus said, "Into thy hands I commit my spirit" God is still searching eternity for Faith like that.
 
Pisteuo said:
Jesus was the first "goer", the captain, the unchangeable pattern, the point of reference, the benchmark. But God expects us to follow His train.
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good luck following that train. Jesus is one of a kind nobody can mimick Him
 
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UnderGrace said:
I think he was stating I was not worthy/ready, in terms of my spiritual development, to receive this "secret" knowledge.

I have this feeling someone is trying to gather disciples into this secret understanding? Cultish maybe:unsure:
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Did you tell him you are already a Secret Calvinist?

I don't know if you are ready to be a Secret Genius, too.

Maybe you are and I just don't have the capacity needed to understand.

Maybe you could come back and try to explain this to the dummies? (I mean me, not the workers for salvation...):ROFL:
 
Grandpa said:
Did you tell him you are already a Secret Calvinist?

I don't know if you are ready to be a Secret Genius, too.

Maybe you are and I just don't have the capacity needed to understand.

Maybe you could come back and try to explain this to the dummies? (I mean me, not the workers for salvation...):ROFL:
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Grandpa your sense of humor is showing!! :D
On point though.......Bravo!!

If only the workers would grasp how off they mark they are!
 
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Grandpa said:
Did you tell him you are already a Secret Calvinist?

I don't know if you are ready to be a Secret Genius, too.

Maybe you are and I just don't have the capacity needed to understand.

Maybe you could come back and try to explain this to the dummies? (I mean me, not the workers for salvation...):ROFL:
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His burden is lite and His yoke is easy. But it's still a burden, it's still a yoke.

At least in the paths of the few.
 
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Pisteuo said:
You've swallowed the "believe and recieve" false doctrine just fine. In fact you've built your house on it! Oh wait, that would take work! Well, you emagine your house being built on it.

Why can't you explain how you accept Christ? Even though He does the accepting, and the excepting!
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Can I use scripture, or is that a 'no no" based on the status/level of our relationship?
 
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