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UnderGrace said:
Thank you Mr. FHS.

I knew your bad intentions all along ...so do not believe for one Milli-second you have outsmarted me.

Lordship salvation is behaviour modification salvation and not the Gospel.

Salvation is a gift and the new birth/birthed from above is necessary.

You reveal you deceptive ways once again. This is why I choose my friends wisely.
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AMEN.....I can only handle about 1 out of 20 posts he makes....I will stroke out or blow an artery in my head if I view ore than one in twenty from banging my head against the wall to beat his drivel out of my mind....
 
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UnderGrace said:
Salvation is a free gift and salvation is not discipleship.
To be saved we must be born from above
There are no wages due to God for salvation..................that is grace
Obviously some people have yet to understand Grace and what a gift is.

Romans 5:15-18:

But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
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AND the GIFTS (PLURAL) and CALLING (SINGULAR) of GOD is IRREVOCABLE.........plain as day
 
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dcontroversal said:
AND the GIFTS (PLURAL) and CALLING (SINGULAR) of GOD is IRREVOCABLE.........plain as day
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Yes , and we are SAVED , not will be saved...
For by grace we HAVE been saved , why on earth cannot this beautiful , most precious Scripture be left alone , why do some need to add to it , or they take away from it , it truly is shocking...xox...
 
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dcontroversal said:
The devil added one word in the garden....his modus operandi
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I am beginning to see it as those who claim more as in adding to Scripture , " Did God really say this " or " That`s not what God meant "...
People using their own imaginations extending the word that is not there , no wonder they get misunderstanding of Scripture...

God has made it clear we are saved by His grace , it is a gift , He gave His only beloved Son , Jesus our LORD and Savior , and if they get this wrong , they will get every thing else wrong , this is what is coming to light for me because I have seen soooo much of it in here lately , it is sad , and their hearts are becoming harder , and God may give them over to a seared conscience , how terrifying is that...xox...
 
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BillG said:
I hope you don't mind but I stalked you.
Read about you.
Your birthday is May 17. Mine is May 15.

You were saved in the same year as I was.

Don't know your age but I'm 51.

You are male.

Now this surprised me given the quote above.

Because men do not generally speak like this.

"I rejoice for you beloved"

Men do not normally relate that way. Well not over here.

I thought you were female.

I interpreted your post as someone who loves me.
Jesus said beloved meaning he loves them.

Now I may have got my thoughts wrong but for me I genuinely believe that us men need to express our love for each other.

Just like David and Jonathan did.

God bless you beloved brother.
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I noticed Smooth's profile is no longer available :(:(
 
dcontroversal said:
AMEN.....I can only handle about 1 out of 20 posts he makes....I will stroke out or blow an artery in my head if I view ore than one in twenty from banging my head against the wall to beat his drivel out of my mind....
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Hi dc, I think you need to see a doctor if you are so easily upset, and maybe some counselling.

Faith that produces an effect in the believer is what Jesus calls fruit.
No fruit and the branch is removed.
No abiding in Christ the branch dries up and is burnt.

I am not saying anything different than Jesus and my brothers and sisters in Christ are sharing.
If you cannot stomach the simple truth of scripture and Gods Holy Spirit, why are you here sharing
about faith in Christ. Is the truth too much for you?

God bless you dear friend, I know you love me dearly and desire I might enter into the Kingdom,
and for this I am eternally grateful. Again God bless you.
 
Rosemaryx said:
I am beginning to see it as those who claim more as in adding to Scripture , " Did God really say this " or " That`s not what God meant "...
People using their own imaginations extending the word that is not there , no wonder they get misunderstanding of Scripture...

God has made it clear we are saved by His grace , it is a gift , He gave His only beloved Son , Jesus our LORD and Savior , and if they get this wrong , they will get every thing else wrong , this is what is coming to light for me because I have seen soooo much of it in here lately , it is sad , and their hearts are becoming harder , and God may give them over to a seared conscience , how terrifying is that...xox...
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Hi Rose,

It is so true we must be careful to listen to Jesus and follow His way and words.
The security we have in the cross and the shedding of His blood knows no end, as long as we abide in Him.

Praise the Lord He gives us cleaned and washed consciences as we walk in purity and love before Him.
Jesus is our gift, Gods word speaking to our hearts, renewing and reviving us each day with His Holy Spirit.
So many are lost in the sin that enslaves them into bad behaviour and evil responses, it is good to know
Jesus gives us the strength to respond in grace and self control. God bless you dear sister as you continue
to walk in Him, Amen.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
He misquoted her then misinterpreted he like he does all the time
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I have to laugh. Someone who says the 4 spiritual laws are not the gospel is very clear.
The great thing about evangelism, is you know when people cold shoulder you.

No problems, I wish everyone continues in their way in peace. We can but share what
is on our hearts. If Jesus is changing ones mind, and being an eternal spirit secure in
Christ, then fine by me, its not my way.

Now if you would like to explain how I misquoted her and misinterpreted her please feel free.
The great thing about rejection is there is nothing really to agree on, because two people
have agreed to disagree.

What is hard is when two people agree and discover minor variations. There is a basis upon
which to build which is a good thing. Anyway God bless you :)
 
eternally-gratefull said:
These people think they are right, no matter what, So they can never hear the actual words you say, they can only here what they think you are saying..
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I hear all you are saying, I just reject your gnostic ideas and accept Jesus and His word.
It is simply niave to suggest the simple proposals you are making stand up to any degree
or are supported by scripture which is why they have had no traction in the christian faith
except in the periphery.

Until love and Gods transforming power through a pure heart reaching out to others takes
root all these exchanges will end in the same way. Emotional experience defines the meaning
we put on words and what is a problem and what is not.

A classic example was a down thumb put on a post saying Jesus does everything, had two people
saying they were shocked. That is an emotional response that defines a point of view and
a framework of emotional attitudes. Our perceptions are all predetermined on these principles,
I like anyone else. Program oneself the wrong way and Gods word is a curse not a blessing,
the law a burden not freedom, and Gods people annoying and not brothers and sisters in the faith.

God bless you.
 
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