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Rosemaryx said:
Yes , the good deeds are from the word of God that is and has taught me to do through Him , I have nothing inside me that`s good apart from my LORD...

I am putting Gods word into practice , according to His Will...
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AMEN.....the faith and salvation one already POSSESSES ETERNALLY puts us in the VINE.....what produces and what bears.......

THE ROOT produces and the VINE bears....JESUS is the ROOT.....we but BEAR what HE produces through US.......

They cannon grasp this truth.........
 
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Noose said:
Your definition of repentance is incomplete, you can not turn away from sin and self until you realize you are not perfect. That realization is the conviction that God does not just to a few people but everyone. Turning away from sin is our work.

John 16:8And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment:
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It is flat out plain wrong to define repentance as realizing we are not perfect.
 
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dcontroversal said:
AMEN.....teh faith and salvation one already POSSESSES ETERNALLY puts us in the VINE.....what produces and what bears.......

THE ROOT produces and the VINE bears....JESUS is the ROOT.....we but BEAR what HE produces through US.......

They cannon grasp this truth.........
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There are many truths to digest in the fewest words of your post, I feel a gold medal coming your way
 
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Rosemaryx said:
There is no understanding from the workers for Salvation , their ears are deaf , their eyes are blind...
I said it before , they carry a misery about them , it is a heavy spirit , no joy , just doubt...

I don`t know how you , mailman etc don`t feel the weight from them , they make me feel heavy just reading their post with question after question , never coming up with answers to the truth of the word of God...

Jesus said " It is finished "
It is God who gives us all we need to follow Jesus , to abide in Him , and through Him we obey , do good works that He has called us to do...

I sometimes can`t swing my sword high enough at the workers , I praise God for all you brother and sisters in Christ who swing without missing , sometimes I feel like Peter did when he chopped off the mans ear , but I know I cannot behave like that :censored:xox...
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Amen Rose and the wisdom and stance you make is like a super sharp rapier........pierces right in like a hot knife through butter.....keep swinging.....
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Yes , the good deeds are from the word of God that is and has taught me to do through Him , I have nothing inside me that`s good apart from my LORD...

I am putting Gods word into practice , according to His Will...
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That's great, it's called works even by any other description. It is being obedient to the command to love. It is not obedience if it is God who commands and does it in you.
 
Rosemaryx said:
There is no understanding from the workers for Salvation , their ears are deaf , their eyes are blind...
I said it before , they carry a misery about them , it is a heavy spirit , no joy , just doubt...

I don`t know how you , mailman etc don`t feel the weight from them , they make me feel heavy just reading their post with question after question , never coming up with answers to the truth of the word of God...

Jesus said " It is finished "
It is God who gives us all we need to follow Jesus , to abide in Him , and through Him we obey , do good works that He has called us to do...

I sometimes can`t swing my sword high enough at the workers , I praise God for all you brother and sisters in Christ who swing without missing , sometimes I feel like Peter did when he chopped off the mans ear , but I know I cannot behave like that :censored:xox...
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Poetic
 
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Magenta said:
It is flat out plain wrong to define repentance as realizing we are not perfect.
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Why?

How do you turn if don't realize you are wrong? If you think you are right, why would you turn and take another direction at all?

It is the presence of the law (God's command) that bring sin to the fore. Without the law there's no sin.

Rom 5:13For sin was in the world before the Law was given; but sinis not taken into account when there is no law.
Rom 4:15becausethe Law brings wrath. And where there is no law,there is no transgression.
 
Noose said:
Why?

How do you turn if don't realize you are wrong? If you think you are right, why would you turn and take another direction at all?

It is the presence of the law (God's command) that bring sin to the fore. Without the law there's no sin.

Rom 5:13For sin was in the world before the Law was given; but sinis not taken into account when there is no law.
Rom 4:15becausethe Law brings wrath. And where there is no law,there is no transgression.
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For one, you left God out of your definition. If you do not understand beyond that, you should ask the Holy Spirit for clarity, because anyone can know they are not perfect without it having anything at all to do with God... in which case, it falls far short of repentance.
 
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Rosemaryx said:
My 17 yrs old granddaughter is coming to stay for a few days...
I am to be a women of God , my place that God has set before me is to be a godly example of what God has taught me from His word...

To be a light for Christ , for her to look at me and know that Jesus is that light...
She knew me before I was born again , she sees the great change in me Praise God .

Today is all God has given to me , and He has called me to be a grandmother to my unsaved granddaughter , that is a mighty work from God...
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Amen, Rose
our job is for us to let our Light to shine, and it shines brightest when we Love one another and others -
speech should always be with Grace and we should always let our actions present Christ's ways for others to witness -
the 'best-witness' is the 'CHANGE' from our 'old-lives' to our 'New-Lives', this is the evidence of our total surrender
and obedience to our Holy Saviour...

what a Blessed opportunity Christ has given to you as a Grandmother...
 
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Magenta said:
For one, you left God out of your definition. If you do not understand beyond that, you should ask the Holy Spirit for clarity, because anyone can know they are not perfect without it having anything at all to do with God... in which case, it falls far short of repentance.
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I think you are wrong in this. When it comes to realization about sin or righteousness, it is only God.
No one can be convicted of sin because of other sources.
 
Noose said:
Godly love is a work and not some thought or belief. Even God came and died for us - isn't that work?
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what Jesus Christ did for us all is definitely a Godly, Loving, work! He is our Example -
as it is written:
1JOHN 2:6.
(He that says He abides in Him ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked.)
 
oldethennew said:
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what Jesus Christ did for us all is definitely a Godly, Loving, work! He is our Example -
as it is written:
1JOHN 2:6.
(He that says He abides in Him ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked.)
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This absolute truth but people here don't want to even think about it.
 
Noose said:
I think you are wrong in this. When it comes to realization about sin or righteousness, it is only God.
No one can be convicted of sin because of other sources.
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welllllll, I can remember when I was 'in-the-world', and I used to say the old adage,
'Nobody's perfect'; back then, almost everyone realized that they made different degrees of mistakes & mis-judgments,
life was strewn with them - for one thing, 'we both STOPPED functional 'stealing' all on our own, maybe for the wrong
reasons, but we DID STOP', remember, this was 'before conversion'...
but,
when God started leading us into 'repentance', we STOPPED DOING 'sinful-behaviours', not all at once, but it was our 'start' -
the point is, we started TURNING AWAY from worldly sinful, learned, behaviours because we became CONVICTED/SORRY
for going against Jesus' Will', how He required us to live anew...
we were 'convicted' and began to go through the 'process of change', Praise God!!!
and now, we certainly understand that 'God led' us to Repentance' through His Holy/Sacrificial/Blood/Love'...
 
Rosemaryx said:
My 17 yrs old granddaughter is coming to stay for a few days...
I am to be a women of God , my place that God has set before me is to be a godly example of what God has taught me from His word...

To be a light for Christ , for her to look at me and know that Jesus is that light...
She knew me before I was born again , she sees the great change in me Praise God .

Today is all God has given to me , and He has called me to be a grandmother to my unsaved granddaughter , that is a mighty work from God...
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Pure, unadulterated grace. ❤️🙏
 
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Noose said:
I think you are wrong in this. When it comes to realization about sin or righteousness, it is only God.
No one can be convicted of sin because of other sources.
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It seems you cannot respond to what I am actually saying in favor of trying to cover up the fact that you are the one who left God out of your definition of repentance. People can know they are not perfect aside from any knowledge of their standing before God, and to deny this fact? Well, you are simply in denial.
 
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VCO said:
And he does not understand that took NO EFFORT from You.
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I just came back from jogging. While running I thought of my conversation with him. I prayed for him, and like all of us, only want the best for him. The best would be to have the scales removed from his eyes and heart so that he may see and rejoice in the free gift of irrevocable grace we have in Jesus.
 
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