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dcontroversal said:
Every wind of doctrine comes because of people taking scripture out of context to "hang" a point on it.......that was a prime example......shakes head at this type of approach by people that CLAIM to know the Lord....
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And you are know different you use things out of context as well, we all have at some point in time.
 
dcontroversal said:
We need to strive to have????/ That is not biblical....they are the RESULTS of having the Spirit and being BORN again from above.......

WOW.....man...doing what you did in the bolded is not biblical and is not even close to being honest with the context of both verse references......
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To say Galatians 5:22/23 is not biblical when it’s written in the Bible, is because you refuse yourself to practice them. and have convinced yourself you need not strive for any of it.
 
I know the wheels are turning to counter my postings I’ll wait to see what you say
 
Melach said:
what is luke warm? ive always thinked about that. who is luke warm?

hot = you are living in God's will, obeying and living righteous, helping others, doing fruits of the spirit
cold = you are not living in God's will, or maybe the cold even means you arent even saved but are atheist or idolater?
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Jesus tells us....

17 ‘Because you say, “I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,” and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked…

Sounds like the self-righteous to me....started in the spirit and then relied on the flesh
 
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KnowMe said:
1 cor 13:1
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a ringing gong or a clanging cymbal.
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The verse says IF, surely I wasn’t speaking in tongues but speaking to a man. But love is part of fruits of the spirit
 
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KnowMe said:
I know the wheels are turning to counter my postings I’ll wait to see what you say
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the wheels did not have far to go. if you keep reading , ( something you legalists have a hard time doing. ) Paul went on to say that " those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh , and it's passions and desires".

crucifiction does NOT result in a instant death, it happens over time, and was different for every poor soul who had to endure one.

so, you see, the Bible will interpet it's self if you let it.

but, folks who have a agenda, they won't let it.
 
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gb9 said:
the wheels did not have far to go. if you keep reading , ( something you legalists have a hard time doing. ) Paul went on to say that " those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh , and it's passions and desires".

crucifiction does NOT result in a instant death, it happens over time, and was different for every poor soul who had to endure one.

so, you see, the Bible will interpet it's self if you let it.

but, folks who have a agenda, they won't let it.
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Well I’m not a legalists as you say, in my opinion I think many folks think Jesus is a push over that they don’t really need to practice these below only when they feel like doing it or when we are in a good mood or whatever.

there are times when defense of loves ones can apply, he made a whip to defend His Fathers house so you can defend your house or family but it’s on a extreme basis.

Gala 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

these are the narrow road it’s much harder to do these than any of the OT laws. there is a law to love that is to practice the rest above as well.

He will not forsake people but people forsake Him in not applying these fruits of the spirit daily.
 
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KnowMe said:
Well I’m not a legalists as you say, in my opinion I think many folks think Jesus is a push over that they don’t really need to practice these below only when they feel like doing it or when we are in a good mood or whatever.
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As you say.
It's only your opinion, but it's an opinion that is judging.
Those who have become disciples of Jesus will not think like the way you think they do.
 
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BillG said:
As you say.
It's only your opinion, but it's an opinion that is judging.
Those who have become disciples of Jesus will not think like the way you think they do.
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Yes it is my opinion and you can believe what I say or not.

It’s not ok to sin once in awhile and go in and out of the old then new then old again and again and again no.

And yes I judge myself as well when I said WE, for I have been doing that as well in and out in and out.
 
There’s a law against not practicing these

Gala 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
 
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dcontroversal said:
AMEN....I remember the bible saying something along the lines of we are conceived in sin and born in sin........but hey......good sound bytes hey....
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Ok I can agree with that I was wrong but what very very few people have that humble ability to say I’m wrong but the fear of being wrong doesn’t bother me. Many people believe they are never wrong at anything they do
 
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