They are not my words but the words of God.
Not By Works
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Are you saying he cannot quote scripture?That's kind of what some people do to me. I'm a legalist, judgemental, etc. for quoting scripture.
Like a mob imposed gag order
Not saying you. I adit that I might be misunderstanding your post
Your words were saying because I like to understand the Greek meaning then I fall foul of the verses you quoted.
That's your words and interpretation.
You read the concourse between Jesus and Peter yet?
Not saying that at all.
That's kind of what some people do to me. I'm a legalist, judgemental, etc. for quoting scripture.
Like a mob imposed gag order
Not saying you. I adit that I might be misunderstanding your post
Scripture is for reproof, edification and understanding.
But to say that because I try to understand the Greek meaning and it's intent puts me in the category of the Revelation verses quoted means I'm adding to the prophecy thereof means I'm going to be written out of the book of life is wrong.
Even when asking for clarification on this and other responses and just quote Revelation in response is not good.
So if I said to you that I like to get an understanding of the Greek and it's true intent would you have responded with
After all PS also said we have Bible in English.
You yourself quote Greek and it's nuances. Maybe not quote but refer to the meaning.
I like to discuss Bible verse I quote.
But I will never ever tell someone that they are written out of the book of life because they want to understand the Bible more.
Then take a few verses to say they are adding to prophecy
Would you?
Bill he is another salvation loser...up above using Hebrews out of context to peddle his drivel.....sickening....!!
At the end of the day we are called to be like Jesus.
That's kind of what some people do to me. I'm a legalist, judgemental, etc. for quoting scripture.
Like a mob imposed gag order
Not saying you. I adit that I might be misunderstanding your post
We are called to discipleship.
What saves us?
Works or faith?
Faith saves, works follow.
AGAIN PAL...the context is having their AUTHORITY removed collectively as a church....IT has nothing to do with salvation so your point is MOOT
I did answer....he cannot figure out that what JESUS said to the 7 churches ha nothing to do with individual salvation, but rather losing their authority as a church.....you cannot reason with people that will ignore context.......just like the other guy using Hebrews out of context to peddle a losable salvation....
Now you are either being deceptive or lying.....because you quoted this above to prove one can lose salvation and if they LOSE IT...so which is it pal....POSSIBLE or IMPOSSIBLE..........you cannot play both cards....
PS said:
Your answer does not compute with Hebrews 6:4-6.
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance.
He has not even responded to that.
I asked him when he said he was in another site what was it?
I can't remember he said.
Then I remembered what site it was. The only other site I was on.
I really do not have a problem with people who think you can lose or give up salvation.
They interpret Bible verses different than we do.
But to just quote and not discuss and answer really gets my goat.
Bill, he quoted that trying to prove Adam and Eve were lost.........and then he turns around and says he believes it is possible to come back....One can always tell who is deceptive...they vacillate more than the waves of the sea.....
Oh I have a problem with it...it is satanic, devalues Christ, his promises and power....NOT of GOD and false..........as a true believer we should take issue with any and all false gospels......
cora, GBY also and welcome! -
hub and I see that under your name is, (a new member) -
we have 'called-out' many in this arena, and have been 'called-out' as well -
we try to be gracious and loving whether being 'called-out', or calling-out)
it's just part of learning how to navigate the territory and bear the most fruit...
You do realize I did answer his question and pointed out that he was yanking verse out of context in an attempt to prove a false point......
Where is the loyalty to the truth any more in our society.......??
YEP....of the which you ignore so far...start with the following to try and prove Adam and EVE lost salvation....
PS said:
Your answer does not compute with Hebrews 6:4-6.
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance.
Then try to connect the words to the nunaces and put it into context.
You read the concourse between Jesus and Peter yet, concerning love?
Individual words you say, have various nuances.
Peter do you love me? What's the word and what's the context?
Jesus 3rd time. What's the word and the context?