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since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
1 John 4:11

A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
John 13:34

We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers.
Anyone who does not love remains in death.
Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.
1 John 3:14-15

This is not written as being judgemental but as a spiritual reality.
We need to discover love, but obeying, by learning to choose to love
those we hate, to forgive from the heart and ask God to change us within.

I know how hard this is to do, but also how God changes us as we obey.
 
The fact is

People can profess love, and say because they claim to love others. They are saved.

No one can love until they have been saved

As john said, it is not that we love God. But that HE LOVES US

Paul was able to consider extreme suffering a momentary light affliction because of the fact HE UNDERSTOOD Gods love,, and no amount of suffering here could take that away from him.
 
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YourTruthGod said:
I am just going to have to write out my testimony so people will not ask such things of me. I have confessed and repented of being in false denominations.
I wonder what would be too long of a testimony and if anyone would read it and whether they would trample it.
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When are you gong to confess about God?
 
FollowHisSteps said:
Here is the joke. Those who believe in transformation and growth to the likeness of Christ,
count truly Gods work in their hearts, and overcoming. Grace overcomes the stumbles and trials.

Those who believe they are as they are in their sin, intractable and not victorious, stay were they
are and believe grace covers their state while believing change is irrelevant, because they have
eternal life, and when the flesh is removed they are this perfect spirit entering heaven.

What matters is those who are moving to Christ, from one state of glory to the next and those
who are happy to stay in their sins and state and see nothing changing because there is no point.
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Being born from above and filled with Holy Spirit is the perfect there in our spirit. Our Spirit is sealed with the Kings approval. Stamped with eternal life. But, our soul and body is still in need of being "saved". The daily life in Christ will cause change in our soul to make us one in Christ. So the perfect that is to come is when we are caught up in Him. Completely healed and whole...saved.

Until then, our soulish part is in part as long as we are human. Still missing the mark of Jesus of Jesus, but overcoming all the time.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
The fact is

People can profess love, and say because they claim to love others. They are saved.

No one can love until they have been saved

As john said, it is not that we love God. But that HE LOVES US

Paul was able to consider extreme suffering a momentary light affliction because of the fact HE UNDERSTOOD Gods love,, and no amount of suffering here could take that away from him.
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Paul understood that the love of God can be plainly portrayed within his will, mercy, and grace, but claims the extremity and complete totality of God's love us completely beyond the realm of our menial ability to comprehend it.
 
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stonesoffire said:
Being born from above and filled with Holy Spirit is the perfect there in our spirit. Our Spirit is sealed with the Kings approval. Stamped with eternal life. But, our soul and body is still in need of being "saved". The daily life in Christ will cause change in our soul to make us one in Christ. So the perfect that is to come is when we are caught up in Him. Completely healed and whole...saved.

Until then, our soulish part is in part as long as we are human. Still missing the mark of Jesus of Jesus, but overcoming all the time.
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Wrong. The initial imputing of the Holy Spirit puts us in Christ as sealed children belonging to God instantaneously and eternally
 
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A simple question, I am a stranger, you do not know me, but do you love me?

If I was your enemy, yes, if I was your brother, yes, if I was a sinner, yes, if I was a saint, yes.

But such questions are not about what we need to be but what we are today, now.
Jesus promises us that we can be like Him so know this love in us reaching out to all.

Jesus loved the pharisees, He spent time talking and sharing with them and knew their weaknesses.
And their weakness was not doing what they taught and their hearts were full of greed and self indulgence.
 
Studying this morning in Philippians. Phil. :4

"Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more."

The Law, works will not save us. Flesh will not save us. Legalism will not save us.

God, through His Son Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved, kept saved.
 
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YourTruthGod said:
Parents always GIVE THEIR CHILDREN gifts. You have to first become a child of God to get the gift.
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"that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust." (Matthew 5:45)

It's the very gift of salvation that makes one a child of God. You don't become His child first and then get salvation. Those who are not saved are children of the devil. (John 8:41, 44)

YourTruthGod said:
After you give your children gifts, they have to do right with it or you can take it away.
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Can you give a single example from the Bible where one was born again, and they gave back salvation, or God took it away?

If you can give just one, I'll admit my error and proclaim you are right to the whole board.

Just....one.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Thats what they all say
They do not realise. Their little mistakes? The penalty of those mistakes is death.

By those little mistakes. They deserve hell just as much as hitler does

That is what breaks them, thats their stumbling block, they refuse to admit they are just as guilty as evel men.
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Amen. Even a single lie attributed to them will send them to the Lake of Fire. (Revelation 21:8)

Thank you Jesus for your precious blood that has washed ALL sins away!
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Thanks, You just proved beyond any shadow of a doubt

1. You do not understand the word of God
2. You do not understand what sin is.

If anyone had a question, this should have put those questions to rest

Everyone who knows God knows that BEFORE salvation. We may be able to obstain from certain sins, Bit we can not do righteous deeds.

As scripture says, there are NON RIGHTEUS NO NOT ONE. Sndf ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALL SHORT.
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Of course we can do righteous things to get saved. Obeying Jesus is righteous.
 
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