Why don't you explain to us what YOU believe the gospel IS and also what YOU believe it means to "BELIEVE" the gospel. (Romans 1:16)
Good luck brother....he believes in Farthing or something akin to self preservance....
Why don't you explain to us what YOU believe the gospel IS and also what YOU believe it means to "BELIEVE" the gospel. (Romans 1:16)
Isn't a sparrow sold for two faithings?![]()
It sounds to me like he believes in the gospel of works salvation conjoined with fear and bondage to IN-security, which is no good news at all!Good luck brother....he believes in Farthing or something akin to self preservance....
It sounds to me like he believes in the gospel of works salvation conjoined with fear and bondage to IN-security, which is no good news at all!![]()
Perverting the gospel by teaching salvation by works is not denying self, taking up your cross or following Him. Too many people set out to accomplish these things on their terms and not His.Christianity = deny self , take up your cross , and follow Him
Christ is formed in our hearts by Faith and faithing , pistis and pisteuo .
Perverting the gospel by teaching salvation by works is not denying self, taking up your cross or following Him. Too many people set out to accomplish these things on their terms and not His.
The source of your authority is the Bible , then why do you reject it's original texts and definitions ?
My ultimate authority is Christ , the real living person , not His words . his word and texts like Vines and Strongs " valadate " the relationship Christ has molded in me , by Faith , by faithing , by the continual surrendering of my life to Him and living a life inspired by such surrender .
You've rejected God's warning , not mine .
Christianity is not a destination , it's a journey that goes beyond here and today . We all start our journey in different places and in different circumstances . But God never changes , He doesn't change " His ways " because something couldnt be translated correctly .
My desire and purpose is just to point out this truth about God , His word , Faith and faithing , and the Salvation process . Shining light on this mistranslation could be just a single post , or for others , I could go into extreme detail as I've been learning about this for over 30 years . It all depends on how honest people can be with themselves .
That's my desire . God's desire might be more simple , to just get the truth out there to see what the called out ones will do with it .
You are being deliberately obtuse. Works doesn't save but faith without works is dead. Therefore as James states his works is evidence of his faith in Jesus. Therefore works gives evidence of faith.Blah blah blah....James does not teach a wotks based salvation...no scripture teaches a works based salvation regardless of how you peddle it and or twist it
The law is scattered through the Torah. The Torah was written by Moses. Therefore Jesus is correct!!" the Law came through Moses " - Jesus.
I think I will believe Him, not you .
Go back to your Catholic creed and do not address me with your religious dogma....!!You are being deliberately obtuse. Works doesn't save but faith without works is dead. Therefore as James states his works is evidence of his faith in Jesus. Therefore works gives evidence of faith.
My life of faith started several years ago when I placed my faith (belief, trust, confidence, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation after leaving the Roman Catholic church, so I am not stuck outside of Christ at the drawing of the Father phase, but I find your false accusation to be ironic.Until you start a life of Faith an faithing , Your stuck outside of Christ at the drawing of the Father phase of the Salvation process . It begins with pisteuo , pisteuo in the Vines Greek dictionary , " a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender " . The Strongs , " pisteuo means NOT just to believe ."
Believing, trusting, confidence, reliance in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of my salvation is the complete definition of Pisteuo, as the Strong's says. No supplements needed. Your warped view of Pisteuo based on your skewed view of Vine's and Strong's has blinded you to the truth.Until the lightbulb goes on and you realize "believing" is not the complete definition of pisteuo , as the Strongs says . And , you begin to fulfill pisteuo , as the Vines says , the Spirit of Christ , Christ , His word , and His promises in His Word are not yours yet .
Your choice. You can repent and entrust your spiritual well being to Christ by placing your trust, confidence, reliance in Him as the ALL-sufficient means of your salvation or you can refuse to repent and continue to trust in works for salvation and remain in unbelief. I hope and pray that you make the right choice!Your choice . Just think a week ago you didn't have a clue . Now you do , and you will be held accountable for what you know today , not a week ago .
You are fighting against the truth, not for the truth just as you are fighting against believers, not for them. You are not fooling me or any of my brothers and sisters in Christ on Christian Chat.I understand and accept all the anger this had generated . I don't hold any of it against all of you . I fought for you all the best I could
It's funny how different people think . In your world that's built on the mistranslation I've been warning you all about , I should apologize for potentially helping her and her household . In my world , she would be eternally grateful , and beg for more understanding , which I have in abundance in Christ .