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When you call the WORD OF GOD "drivel" you say "GOD IS DRIVEL" which is "BLASPHEMY" (Matthew 12:31-32)!
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UnderGrace
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I know I am saved, you apparently are "unsure"
How is that working for you.... and why do you say this?
I ask sincerely.
How is that working for you.... and why do you say this?
I ask sincerely.
Mark 16:16 - He who believes and is baptized will be saved (general cases without making a qualification for the unusual case of someone who believes but is not baptized) but he who does not believe will be condemned. The omission of baptized with "does not believe" shows that Jesus does not make baptism absolutely essential to salvation. Condemnation rests on unbelief, not on a lack of baptism. So salvation rests on belief. NOWHERE does the Bible say "baptized or condemned."
If water baptism is absolutely required for salvation, then why did Jesus not mention it in the following verses? (3:15,16,18; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26). What is the ONE requirement that Jesus mentions 9 different times in each of these complete statements? BELIEVES. *What happened to baptism? *Hermeneutics.
John 3:18 - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who (is not water baptized? - NO) does not believe is condemned already, because he has not (been water baptized? - NO) because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
JESUS didn't tell anyone to "drink a glass of pure bleach" (Isaiah 8:20) nor did HE say go "take up a serpent!" ACCIDENTS (Acts 28:3)!
You need to read Proverbs 6:16-19 and learn something because you're about to cross the wire!
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joefizz
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Why don't you open a "Bible" instead of "ranting"?
I may be younger than you but you are behaving like a "spoiled child" wanting "your way" not "God's way" that is not how a servant of Christ is to be I don't need to read the bible for your sake I despite being young have read the entire bible and have "learned" how to "truly" serve Christ Jesus,why not try a novel idea "making sense" and "discussing" not trying to "hurt others" as I'm sure you may have already,try being "humble" with Jesus you just might surprise yourself.
You've missed the whole point! The baptism JESUS is referring to is Holy Spirit baptism which gives "POWER" (Acts 1:8) to perform the MIRACULOUS "SIGNS FOLLOWING" mentioned in Mark 16:17-18! Without "CONFORMATION" (Mark 16:16-20) of these "SIGNS FOLLOWING" one is "DAMNED" (Mark 16:16) and not "SAVED!"
hahaha
believe it or not it wasnt too long ago i was a sinless perfectionist
God provides the growth
and without the Holy spirit helping you along the way
it is actually veeeeeery easy to decieve yourself
it didnt matter i went completely through the bible many times
i was still in error
it wasnt until God broke that false doctrine from me that the scriptures all opened up in a whole new way
and flowed in perfect harmony
i spent many nights crying
begging to be delivered from itching ears
i didnt care if i looked like a fool to everyone. i argued with or called a sinner or pointed in the wrong direction
i just wanted truth
i wanted God to show me what HE wanted me to see...
annnnnnd
He has been correcting me step by step ever since
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
praise God for opening my darkened eyes
(yours too young Gracie)
I remember it well hahha
Need to LISTEN to what JESUS SAID (Mark 16:16-20; I Corinthians 12:7-10; 13; Acts 1:5; 8) *IF* you want to continue to GROW (II Corinthians 3:18)!
I've READ and GOD "CONFIRMED" so YOU go READ Mark 16:16-20; I Corinthians 12:7-10; 13; Acts 1:5; 8; 11:15-16 and see what GOD TELLS YOU!
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joefizz
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I tell ya this craziness further encourages me to move out on my own for God in July so I can "do more" for him and "stand against" all the yoyos coming out of the wood work,because at my current residence it's a wonder I haven't gone loony myself.
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UnderGrace
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Can you perform any other the MIRACULOUS "Spiritual gifts" JESUS SAID in Mark 16:17-18; I Corinthians 12:8-10? If NOT, then you have no "CONFORMATION" (Mark 16:20) of the "POWER" (Acts 1:8) JESUS PROMISED and are "DAMNED" (Mark 16:16)!
Well I can't wait all night, so I guess you have no answer.
I am good with that.
Proverbs 6:16-19!
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UnderGrace
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joefizz
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To be honest I think she's just having troubles at home and is taking it out on us and looking for a way to not deal with those troubles,she keeps getting more and more hostile and less and less coherent.Well I can't wait all night, so I guess you have no answer.
I am good with that.
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