God luck with that....you might as well read the National Enquirer.....it would be more reliable.....
Not By Works
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God luck with that....you might as well read the National Enquirer.....it would be more reliable.....
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This goes to the point Jesus said about their works. You shall know them by their fruits!
By your WORDS (NOT WORKS) you will JUSTIFIED and or CONDEMNED.....
FAITH is what the LORD looks for....NOT our WORKS
FAITH is what the LORD looks for....NOT our WORKS
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yup
if your fruits are self righteous
and boastful
"oh i did all these things in your name"
youre looking to yourself
not meek in spirit
"Lord i do not deserve your mercy but i have faith in YOU to save me"
looking to Him
All I know is within the Christian religion (across the board) you have those who continually and constantly point to Christ, his work, his power, his promises, his faith, his mediatorship, his blood, his forgiveness, etc........and then you have those who constantly point to their works, what they have done, their abilities, saying they hardly ever sin, how righteous they are etc........
My bible states that NO MAN CAN BOAST in ANYTHING they have done........and PAUL who turned the world UPSIDE DOWN, STARTED more churches than probably anyone and has untold millions of saved souls "probably" tied to his service said...if I am going to boast I will boast in the cross of CHRIST......
The truth of who is really saved seems obvious.....
Matthew 12:31-37 (NKJV)
The Unpardonable Sin
31 “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
A Tree Known by Its Fruit
33 “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. 34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
A tree is known by its fruit.
So their works can't condemn the said tree because it bears fruit.
It can only bear fruit because it's in the vine, and who is the vine?
So why is a man condemned?
Because by their very words they reject the vine.
Two answers to one question.
"Do you place your faith in Jesus as the son of God who died and rose again for your son's in order to be reconciled to the Father?
If yes then your words justify you.
If no then your words condemn you.
If yes then you are on the vine and you will bear fruit.
If no then your words condemn you and your works mean diddly squat, NADA, zero.
John 6:39-40 (NKJV)
39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
WOW. Looking at what is recorded in the Bible is different from the modern concept of where the temple was. I have been to Israel several times for work. I visited the temple mount multiple times seeing the Jews worship there. Everybody assumes that the temple was on the court where the 2 muslim buildings are. It is good this evidence is coming to light. There would be immediate war if the new temple was attempted to be built on the temple mount. This will change that. The temple can be peacefully built. That will then help the prophecies to come to pass. Obviously God planned it out.
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What does the Lord delight in?
Psalm 51
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Now what? Will they build on the mount? Doesn't seem possible because of the muslims.
What is the politics behind keeping the building starting in the City of David. I have lots of questions. Will it be built at all?
The Jews will riot if they build where it should be?
Got lots to search. Lol
New International Version 1984 Matthew 4:1-11 The Temptation of Jesus Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.” Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written: “‘He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’” Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’” Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.” Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’” Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.
I need a translation filter.
A group appear to be saying if you encourage others, as Jesus and the apostles said,
to do good works, showing the love God has planted within and cleansing out the sin
and evil that once resided there, this is pointing to man.
The stupidity of this logic, is the whole point is Jesus turning sinners into saints through
His grace, bringing glory to the King.
What these people want to claim is they point to Jesus, except Jesus without His words,
without His precepts, love, victory and overcoming in the believer.
If Jesus does not effect the believer to His glory, then what is the point of witnessing,
because Jesus does nothing. But the heart of this lie, is disobedience to the word of God,
rebellion against repentance, confession and humbleness. Everything is turned upside down,
like the drug addict who has found a pile of heroin so he can kick back all he likes, he is
in heaven, except it will lead him straight to death.
This core point of rebellion against loving each other as He has loved us, is they believe that
kind of love is impossible. And this is true if one is not filled with the Holy Spirit, so enough
said. Halleluyah that He empowers us to walk in His ways.
A group appear to be saying if you encourage others, as Jesus and the apostles said,
to do good works, showing the love God has planted within and cleansing out the sin
and evil that once resided there, this is pointing to man.
The stupidity of this logic, is the whole point is Jesus turning sinners into saints through
His grace, bringing glory to the King.
What these people want to claim is they point to Jesus, except Jesus without His words,
without His precepts, love, victory and overcoming in the believer.
If Jesus does not effect the believer to His glory, then what is the point of witnessing,
because Jesus does nothing. But the heart of this lie, is disobedience to the word of God,
rebellion against repentance, confession and humbleness. Everything is turned upside down,
like the drug addict who has found a pile of heroin so he can kick back all he likes, he is
in heaven, except it will lead him straight to death.
This core point of rebellion against loving each other as He has loved us, is they believe that
kind of love is impossible. And this is true if one is not filled with the Holy Spirit, so enough
said. Halleluyah that He empowers us to walk in His ways.
Look Peter.....you have consistently proven that you have no idea what we say, teach and or believe.....over and over and over you twist, embellish and attempt to say that we are saying something that we are not saying and you in turn will go on some rambling diatribe about how holy, righteous and godly you appear to be....you constantly say that we teach a life of sin and defeat and a live as you choose lifestyle while ignoring JESUS and oblivious to the victory we have in Christ....
Give it up man....serious.............
Sinning
Once you can never accept you are literally clean, then defilement is no problem, because
you believe you are already defiled and God does not care.
So sinning just shows you are defiled, not you have stumbled and need to get clean again.
So to get someone to admit they stumble is victory, claiming we are just defiled and only
hypocrites claim to ever be cleaned by the blood of the lamb.
This is why this is a different faith, because Paul accepted he was holy, pure, blameless as
far as God was concerned.
God told Peter, He had cleansed the gentiles of being defiled, and brought them into the Kingdom.
A jew could not eat with the gentile because that defiled them, but not now God has cleansed
both.
But this group claim God got it wrong, Peter was as defiled as the gentiles, which denies the whole
point of the dream and having to visit Cornelius.
Once you can never accept you are literally clean, then defilement is no problem, because
you believe you are already defiled and God does not care.
So sinning just shows you are defiled, not you have stumbled and need to get clean again.
So to get someone to admit they stumble is victory, claiming we are just defiled and only
hypocrites claim to ever be cleaned by the blood of the lamb.
This is why this is a different faith, because Paul accepted he was holy, pure, blameless as
far as God was concerned.
God told Peter, He had cleansed the gentiles of being defiled, and brought them into the Kingdom.
A jew could not eat with the gentile because that defiled them, but not now God has cleansed
both.
But this group claim God got it wrong, Peter was as defiled as the gentiles, which denies the whole
point of the dream and having to visit Cornelius.