Not By Works

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Ralph- said:
I see. I asked him about all those things. But you come right out and TELL me about me, but that's okay for you to do that, right, just not me to do that?
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you are pointing your finger saying he doesnt let his light shine

you say i have no growth

but youre lying


so i pointed it out


please ralph

open your eyes
 
Ralph- said:
"the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,23gentleness, self-control"-Galatians 5:22

I have these working in me more and more in all my daily situations and circumstances. Are they in you? Are you growing up into the image and stature of Christ through your faith in Him? What are you going to be like and do in traffic today, or at the grocery store, or with your wife at home, or with your co-workers, or when you see the person in need?
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funny that you didn't list what your'e going to do "here at CC"!! Because if we're supposed to be "fruit inspectors" I ain't seein much of the Galatians 5:22 list coming from you. Especially numero uno!
 
eternally-gratefull said:

Man can not look and say anyone has works so he must be saved, Impostors appear to work all the time
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And the real believers don't, but that's okay, because salvation is not by works (salvation not being earned by works definitely being the true part). That's a pretty twisted theology. But that does seem to be what many in the church subscribe to.
 
NoNameMcgee said:
you are pointing your finger saying he doesnt let his light shine

you say i have no growth

but youre lying


so i pointed it out


please ralph

open your eyes
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if he is talking about me, he can ask me all he wants, I can not see a word he says, unless someone else quotes him,

He is here to play games, not discuss the word..
 
PennEd said:
funny that you didn't list what your'e going to do "here at CC"!! Because if we're supposed to be "fruit inspectors" I ain't seein much of the Galatians 5:22 list coming from you. Especially numero uno!
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So predictable, Penn. so predictable. Stop lashing out.

Are you convicted by what I've been saying? Don't bash me. Take it to Jesus. Prove to yourself what Spirit you are of.
 
Ralph- said:
And the real believers don't, but that's okay, because salvation is not by works (salvation not being earned by works definitely being the true part). That's a pretty twisted theology. But that does seem to be what many in the church subscribe to.
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who says real believers arent new creatures?

who says the change God provides doesnt provide works (of the Holy spirit even)

you keep twisting the argument trying to make those who believe on imputed righteousness (which is biblical)
out to be people with zero evidence of the Holy spirit


that is a false accusation
 
NoNameMcgee said:
you are pointing your finger saying he doesnt let his light shine

you say i have no growth

but youre lying


so i pointed it out


please ralph

open your eyes
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Time to grow up McGee. I did not accuse him. Don't play the devil's game here and start accusing the messenger. You can see for yourself I used '?'s so he can examine himself. I do not know what he does or doesn't do.
 
NoNameMcgee said:
who says real believers arent new creatures?

who says the change God provides doesnt provide works (of the Holy spirit even)

you keep twisting the argument trying to make those who believe on imputed righteousness (which is biblical)
out to be people with zero evidence of the Holy spirit


that is a false accusation
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Calm down. Are you convicted? Take it to Jesus. The same way you did when you first believed. Don't trash the messenger.
 
NoNameMcgee said:
who says real believers arent new creatures?

who says the change God provides doesnt provide works (of the Holy spirit even)

you keep twisting the argument trying to make those who believe on imputed righteousness (which is biblical)
out to be people with zero evidence of the Holy spirit


that is a false accusation
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His whole argument is based on false accusations. It is all he has, because if he decides to be truthful, and see what others are realy saying wiht an open mind, his whole argument will fail.
 
Ralph- said:
Your turn.
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[h=1]John 6:28-29New King James Version (NKJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”

you see, this is your fundamental, and I would say fatal flaw. WE rely on HIS work. Once we are filled by the Holy Spirit AFTER doing the above verse, then we will do the works HE LAID OUT FOR US SINCE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD!

Please pray about which Gospel you have accepted.[/FONT]
 
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PennEd said:
funny that you didn't list what your'e going to do "here at CC"!! Because if we're supposed to be "fruit inspectors" I ain't seein much of the Galatians 5:22 list coming from you. Especially numero uno!
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He's too busy trying to condemn others as lost and on their way to hell that he cannot see his lying about others on here incessantly betrays him.
 
Ralph- said:
"the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,23gentleness, self-control"-Galatians 5:22

I have these working in me more and more in all my daily situations and circumstances.
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Sorry, I don't see these working in you. Your bearing false witness against others on here speaks much louder than your empty self praise above.
 
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PennEd said:
WE rely on HIS work. Once we are filled by the Holy Spirit AFTER doing the above verse, then we will do the works HE LAID OUT FOR US SINCE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD!
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And yet you trash anyone who might dare suggest that's happening in them more and more.
 
PennEd said:
John 6:28-29New King James Version (NKJV)

28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”

you see, this is your fundamental, and I would say fatal flaw. WE rely on HIS work. Once we are filled by the Holy Spirit AFTER doing the above verse, then we will do the works HE LAID OUT FOR US SINCE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD!

Please pray about which Gospel you have accepted.
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No offense intended but you didn't "do" the "above verse." God did.
 
Ralph- said:
And yet you trash anyone who might dare suggest that's happening in them more and more.
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thats not true

penn has encouraged me more than once when he saw that God was providing growth in me

not just me

look around

hes a wonderful brother in Christ if his time here has anything to say about who he is face to face
 
preacher4truth said:
He's too busy trying to condemn others as lost and on their way to hell that he cannot see his lying about others on here incessantly betrays him.
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It's interesting that you do not recognize the gospel.

Conviction of sin is the beginning of the gospel. People see themselves for what they are and then run to Jesus for salvation. I mean the humble do (the rest attack the messenger). You're a preacher and you don't seem to have known this. You seem more PC than real to me.
 
NoNameMcgee said:
thats not true

penn has encouraged me more than once when he saw that God was helping me grow in truth

not just me

look around

hes a wonderful brother in Christ if his time here has anything to say about who he is face to face
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That's because you agree with each other. But he is attacking me because he does not agree with what I'm saying. That's how it works around here. You hate those who don't agree with you. You heap praise and 'likes' on those you do agree with.
 
NoNameMcgee said:
thats not true

penn has encouraged me more than once when he saw that God was providing growth in me

not just me

look around

hes a wonderful brother in Christ if his time here has anything to say about who he is face to face
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Like those who come before him, You disagree with him, and he will do all he can to attack and belittle you.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
Like those who come before him, You disagree with him, and he will do all he can to attack and belittle you.
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i dont mind the attacks against me to be honest...

the first time he did it i wanted proof
it was never provided

but now i just see these subtle twisting of words and lies aimed at brothers and sisters and the true gospel



there are people here who can fall prey to these lies

i can only pray God will one day show these false accusers and people who think they justify themself the truth...
 
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