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Demi777 said:
Explicit. Exacly. GoT ist that. You don't see anything. Don't you get that there's no wee wees and genitalia etc to see. Two ppl under covers moving around isnt porn
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If you'll remember I posted the IMDB site that says exactly what sexual content is in the popular shows that you and others said they watch. It wasn't just some wiggling around under some covers. You know this.
 
preacher4truth said:
Any professing believer defending porn needs to repent, or, if not, their church needs to step up with church disciplinary actions.
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Post this in the singles thread about what your favorite shows are.

Probably wouldn't do any good though since we're now redefining pornography to get around the truth about this.
 
PHart said:
If you'll remember I posted the IMDB site that says exactly what sexual content is in the popular shows that you and others said they watch. It wasn't just some wiggling around under some covers. You know this.
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I have been watching it since the beginning and there has not been any actual porn in it.
Its easy to judge if u dont watch it. U make urself look like a fool towards us who watch it and see what goes on.
 
Demi777 said:
I have been watching it since the beginning and there has not been any actual porn in it.
Its easy to judge if u dont watch it. U make urself look like a fool towards us who watch it and see what goes on.
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Post some clips. Seriously. Do it. The ones that I would consider the worst of them.
 
Definition of pornography
1 :the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
2 :material (such as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement
3 :the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction

I am not going to argue this but men are visual creatures. When I see two people moving under a blanket I am thinking it. Jesus said if we think it, we are sinning. That is why I don’t watch GoT.
 
GandalfTheWhite said:
Definition of pornography
1 :the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
2 :material (such as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement
3 :the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction

I am not going to argue this but men are visual creatures. When I see two people moving under a blanket I am thinking it. Jesus said if we think it, we are sinning. That is why I don’t watch GoT.
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Thank you for having the courage to post this.

Watch. What will happen now is they will claim they are not sexually aroused by what they watch.
 
Demi777 said:
And i am amazed that you cannot differentiate between acting and porn.
Wake up from the stone hedge. U dont even seem to know what porn is
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Yeah unfortunately I do know what porn is and Phart is playing on that both are usually ridiculous circumstances with nudity or some sexual content,but there is a difference as he acts as if there isn't,porn is nothing more than acted out fantasies that aren't even close to being true in reality and revolve around whatever sick or casual thing a person desires explicitly and acting upon it,acting in theatre standing is quite different because it has a plot that isn't pointless and not focused primarily on sexual desires and doesn't outright show nudity typically because the shows are about following a story not following your hormones,any show a person can "find" evil in but it doesn't mean we just have to shut a show down at the first sign of trouble,you discern what is "decent" to watch,pornography is quite different in that whatever you watch of it will be "indecent" every single time.
 
  • Sex is a driving force of this series, and full nudity occurs quite frequently throughout each season, including extended instances of exposed breasts, buttocks, and genitals (both male and female). Viewers can expect to see and hear graphic sex scenes, many of which take place in a brothel, as well as several scenes and situations of incest, rape, and sexual violence (primarily towards females).
​Parents Guide - IMDb
 
We've had persons in church disciplined over concerns of p0rn and other sexual misbehaviors. The churches need to implement church discipline as needed. Note 1 Peter 4:17 by application.

I'll say this and you all can hate if you want: we all progress at differing degrees of sanctification. There are some shows you all watch that I would not put in front of my eyes; Psalm 119:37 &c. Yet we all sin an do some stupid things. The key is ongoing repentance, do we have this grace working in us? Yes or no?

That being said, if there is not a progressive sanctification in the life of a professing believer, they are not saved; Hebrews 12:14.
 
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PHart said:
  • Sex is a driving force of this series, and full nudity occurs quite frequently throughout each season, including extended instances of exposed breasts, buttocks, and genitals (both male and female). Viewers can expect to see and hear graphic sex scenes, many of which take place in a brothel, as well as several scenes and situations of incest, rape, and sexual violence (primarily towards females).
​Parents Guide - IMDb
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I'm not familiar with that garbage show until this thread. If that is the gist of it it is to be avoided by professing believers altogether. There is no justification if that description is accurate and I'd say it is accurate.
 
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preacher4truth said:
I'm not familiar with that garbage show until this thread. If that is the gist of it it is to be avoided by professing believers altogether. There is no justification if that description is accurate and I'd say it is accurate.
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What is amazing is how many Christians defend watching stuff like this. I can understand the struggle with sin. What I don't get is willfully indulging sin and then defending it. That's where the line has to be drawn.
 
PHart said:
Thank you for having the courage to post this.

Watch. What will happen now is they will claim they are not sexually aroused by what they watch.
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I am not posting on this any further, I am not going to have this discussion with a 17 year old girl unless she is my daughter.

Demi, please go and pray about this. I know Holy Spirit will lead you in truth friend.
 
PHart said:
Thank you for having the courage to post this.

Watch. What will happen now is they will claim they are not sexually aroused by what they watch.
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You know that isn't the point,you are acting as if every even slightly explicit show or movie,has to be kept from or thrown in the garbage,so that means,starwars,Star trek,Alf,the whole lifetime channel,days of our lives,seventh heaven,HBO,WWE programming,Home improvement and so on must be kept from or thrown out,because it's just plain wrong and God doesn't understand that we will seek after this sort of thing that has innuendo or some form of nudity in it,and apparently will condemn us,strange didn't David see bath-sheba bathing and yet God didn't condemn him for that,wrong as it was considering his wives,I am so grateful that our lives and salvation are not in your hands but in the hands of God/Jesus where they belong.
 
GandalfTheWhite said:
I am not posting on this any further, I am not going to have this discussion with a 17 year old girl unless she is my daughter.

Demi, please go and pray about this. I know Holy Spirit will lead you in truth friend.
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I appreciate what you're saying, but this is an extension of another thread with other people involved. It's not a one off discussion with a minor.
 
joefizz said:
You know that isn't the point,you are acting as if every even slightly explicit show or movie,has to be kept from or thrown in the garbage,so that means,starwars,Star trek,Alf,the whole lifetime channel,days of our lives,seventh heaven,HBO,WWE programming,Home improvement and so on must be kept from or thrown out,because it's just plain wrong and God doesn't understand that we will seek after this sort of thing that has innuendo or some form of nudity in it,and apparently will condemn us,strange didn't David see bath-sheba bathing and yet God didn't condemn him for that,wrong as it was considering his wives,I am so grateful that our lives and salvation are not in your hands but in the hands of God/Jesus where they belong.
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NUDITY. Understand?


You illustrate the problem well. You think your willful sin is covered by Christ. If you persist in it and refuse to repent you will most certainly be lost on the Day of Wrath, not saved as you expect.

If you want to believe that God will always succeed in bringing the believer who is condemning himself by what he is presently willfully doing back to repentance then that is your choice. But you are gambling on something the Bible does not defend.
 
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PHart said:
What is amazing is how many Christians defend watching stuff like this. I can understand the struggle with sin. What I don't get is willfully indulging sin and then defending it. That's where the line has to be drawn.
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You'll drive yourself mad addressing and seeing everything professing believers practice, allow and believe in.
 
PHart said:
What is amazing is how many Christians defend watching stuff like this. I can understand the struggle with sin. What I don't get is willfully indulging sin and then defending it. That's where the line has to be drawn.
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It's not "defending" it's "knowing one's place" you may go on as some great person that is against this sort of thing,but you seem to delight in condemning others,despite yourself being a sinner as well,so you have ruled out all pornography and nudity c ompletely in your life,that's great,I have ruled out cussing completely in all honesty but you know what it doesn't make me better than anyone else,it doesn't mean I get to go around pointing fingers at people and shaming them,all it means is 1 less sin to worry about out of many that we commit day to day without even perceiving them.
 
joefizz said:
It's not "defending" it's "knowing one's place" you may go on as some great person that is against this sort of thing,but you seem to delight in condemning others,despite yourself being a sinner as well,so you have ruled out all pornography and nudity c ompletely in your life,that's great,I have ruled out cussing completely in all honesty but you know what it doesn't make me better than anyone else,it doesn't mean I get to go around pointing fingers at people and shaming them,all it means is 1 less sin to worry about out of many that we commit day to day without even perceiving them.
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Just can't do it, I see. Can't admit purposely watching naked people is a sin. Meanwhile, someone saying it is sin is the one who is sinning. But I get it. That is where the church is at this present time in end times history.
 
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