It is impossible to "give up" salvation. Once you're saved, that's it. Salvation can never be lost, revoked, taken away or given up..
AMEN Blue.........I agree
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AMEN Blue.........I agree
"I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so 'that you may know' that you 'have eternal life." 1John5:13.....simple, Sunday School Bible Class.
Originally Posted by PJW 
Salvation won't be assured , till , after the final judgement.
Salvation won't be assured , till , after the final judgement.
By grace are you saved...
Wonder why PJW lies against the revelation of God's Word? Alot?
He's already shown himself to have fulfilled 1 John 1:10.
Wonder why PJW lies against the revelation of God's Word? Alot?
He's already shown himself to have fulfilled 1 John 1:10.
to insert a quote in a post you need a formatting command to begin the quote and to end it,
[quote and [/quote
((i'm leaving off the end bracket so they don't turn into quotes))
think of them like parentheses; they pair up from the centermost, outward
( (2 + 3) + 4 ) / 3
in the expression above, you do the 2+3 first, then 5 + 4, then divide by 3, so you get answer = 3
but if you leave off one of the parentheses,
( (2 + 3) + 4 / 3
you get ( 5 + 4/3 = ( 19/3 = ( 6.33333
not the right answer, right? plus there is that left-parenthesis sitting there with nothing to do because it hasn't got it's partner right-parenthesis to close it.
that's what's going on when a quote looks like it came from the wrong person, and there's a 'left-hand parenthesis' in the form of
a person .. said:
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It took me a second or two to get it . That yea he may be trolling. Then I noticed something even worse.The SS PJW:
There are no eternal life preservers on his ship .
Blessings
Bill
I stopped reading his 'nonsense' because it was giving me a headache trying to untwist his twisted theory.
Oh foolish Galatians
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!" Galatians1:8
Not lose salvation, give it up. Some believe they have salvation but there is no proof in their life. The Bible says you will know a tree by its fruit. If there is no fruit such as the fig tree then they will be cursed just as the fig tree.
Bolded = false
Saved believers can also have works of wood, hay and stubble which get burnt to a crisp and yet they are saved
The Corinthian fornicator SAVED, but cut lose for the destruction of the flesh yet SPIRIT saved in day of CHRIST
The prodigal squandered his inheritance through riotous living and ended up with the pigs yet still a son through the whole process, received, given a robe and ring
AND...lest we forget...ONE who has believed ALREADY has done the works of the Heavenly Father (believed on the one who was sent)
How is what is bolded false? One can give up their salvation but you can not lose it.
E
Ellsworth1943
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Originally Posted by kennethleehutch
Not lose salvation, give it up. Some believe they have salvation but there is no proof in their life. The Bible says you will know a tree by its fruit. If there is no fruit such as the fig tree then they will be cursed just as the fig tree.
Bolded = false
Saved believers can also have works of wood, hay and stubble which get burnt to a crisp and yet they are saved
The Corinthian fornicator SAVED, but cut lose for the destruction of the flesh yet SPIRIT saved in day of CHRIST
The prodigal squandered his inheritance through riotous living and ended up with the pigs yet still a son through the whole process, received, given a robe and ring
AND...lest we forget...ONE who has believed ALREADY has done the works of the Heavenly Father (believed on the one who was sent)
How is what is bolded false? One can give up their salvation but you can not lose it.
Simple--- It takes eternal salvation out of the Hands of Jesus and puts in in your hands.
E
Ellsworth1943
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I just can not understand how some people believe they can earn salvation or keep themselves saved when they fail every day at the simplest of task.
evening, Bill, how are you?
the improper quote feature becomes a cascading thing, once one poster gets it wrong.
every 'reply with quote' begins with this symbol [ then the word QUOTE then the user name and a number and the ].
they all end with [ / QUOTE ] i separated them so it wouldn't form a quote box, but if we want to do that,
when i quoted your post, i cleaned up everything but the quote box with your user name and the number in it, and the ending quote box.
that should all be clear as mud now. lol
if you try it out it should make much more sense.
Hi notmyown, like this,
if you try it out it should make much more sense.
It took me a second or two to get it . That yea he may be trolling. Then I noticed something even worse.The SS PJW:
There are no eternal life preservers on his ship .
Blessings
Bill
awful lot of "rigging" going on there too - pretty easy to get tangled up in all that. and takes a lot of work to keep it from getting snarled.
wow! and you've only been here since July? i'm impressed!
i first joined in 2012 and the vast majority of the site features are still unknown to me.
i'd rather know the people, though, so as long as i can 'function', i'm happy.
Well I think a sword can cut through all the unnecessary rigging bro.
awful lot of "rigging" going on there too - pretty easy to get tangled up in all that. and takes a lot of work to keep it from getting snarled.
Blessings
Bill
I want to throw this by you all because I've never understood this scripture until I remembered something that happened years ago. Though I cannot say for sure this is what it means.
I was praying for a friend but wasn't aware this friend had left her husband, ran off with her horse trainer, and as they were flying to another state, crashed in the mountains. And it took a while for them to be found.
As I started praying, Holy Spirit stopped me. Said, don't pray for her.
Then I found out what had happened later.
Is this what this scripture means?
Yes salvation is a gift given to us because of Jesus dying on the cross for us. We pick up that gift and have eternal salvation but then we can always put that gift back down and refuse to take it any longer. This is why I say you can give it up but not lose it. We have freedom of choice. To take it and keep it or to take it and give it back.
john hasnt been taught by PJW it seems. the most important thing to figure out is know if ur saved. not risk it all for final judgment and see what happens
who has any idea what is the sin unto death?