Not By Works

[Magenta]

Who were the Pharisees?

Matt. 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,2 Saying,
The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

So the Pharisees were the teachers were they not? They taught the people, Yes? What did they teach?

Mark 1:1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.


5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

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Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Did John the Baptist know this?

Matt. 3:1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,
2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:


9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Why would there be "Wrath to come" on the Mainstream Teachers of that time? Am I adding to the Word by accepting Christ's description of their doctrine?

Paul was a Pharisee, therefore, as Jesus said, He was a false teacher. He was a perfect Pharisee, he followed their "Doctrines and Traditions of man perfectly" as he said.

You are the one rejecting what a Pharisee is, rejecting that John the Baptist knew of their false teaching, and called for their repentance, and works worthy of repentance.

As for me, I am not a disciple of todays Mainstream Church with all it's doctrines and Commandments of men. I have faith in the Jesus of the Bible, not the long haired Levi Jean model that todays church has created as their god.

I have not added anything to the Gospel, I have just chosen to believe "ALL" scripture, and not just a few that can be used to support mans doctrines and traditions.

Please show me John the Baptist pointing out the false doctrine of the mainstream teachers. That is what you claimed. You have failed to do so, and in your inability to back what you say, make false accusations against me, while rationalizing your adding to Scripture, and claiming you are sinless. Is that what sinless looks like? I did not ask for the rebukes Jesus gave the Pharisees and scribes and Sadducees. That is simply you dodging the question and trying to avoid admitting you were wrong. There are no such verses in Scripture.

 

[joefizz]

It does make sense when you include the word "IF" beforehand.

"IF" we walk in traffic, we will get hit by a car.
"IF" we stay on the sidewalk, we will be safe.

"IF" we walk in the light, all our sin is washed away.
"IF" we walk in the darkness, we cannot say we have fellowship with God or His Son.

"If" we sound foolish by what if-ing then we probably are.

 

[PJW]

Another fallacy here.....Where sin abounds, grace did much more abound.....and you just declared yourself lost.....NO MAN is sinless until the body is changed or resurrected....

I'll respond with Paul's words..."[FONT=&quot]What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?[/FONT][FONT=&quot]God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?" (Rom 6: 1-3)
If you read a few more verses you will see where/when the "body has changed".[/FONT]

 

[PJW]

Rude awakenings.

Until you look at an idea, you do not know whether it is true or false.

When you are in the valleys you cannot see from the high peaks.
A lot of ideas you need to dwell in and let its implications work through.

If ones view is always to discount oneself in self condemnation, no wonder
the idea of being Holy is alien. God knew this was our nature to instituted the
temple and sacrifices to get the point across. Our feelings always tell us things
are ok and have not changed, even if they have. This works for sinful behaviour
as well as cleansing.

Jesus had forgiven people but they did not feel any different. It is because
forgiveness is given by the forgiven party. If you understand the breadth of the
forgiveness ones heart will respond, but that is up to the receiver to put effort in
to see this.

So when people awaken it will become obvious.

Good observation.

 

[PJW]

Whoa
hard taskmaster comes to mind.

The only "task" I mentioned was Paul's exhortation to "awake to righteousness".
I concur.

 

[PJW]

Matthew 18:15 (CSBBible)
[SUP]15[/SUP] "If your brother sins against you, go and rebuke him in private. If he listens to you, you have won your brother.
Matthew 18:21-22 (NCV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, when my fellow believer sins against me, how many times must I forgive him? Should I forgive him as many as seven times?“
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Jesus answered, “I tell you, you must forgive him more than seven times. You must forgive him even if he does wrong to you seventy-seven times.
1 Peter 4:8 (HCSB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Above all, maintain an intense love for each other, since love covers a multitude of sins.

Your theory that the sin-nature is removed from the MORTAL BODY when the human spirit is birthed into eternal life by the Holy Spirit, HOLDS NO WATER. YOUR THEORY is as FULL OF HOLES and probably more, than this bucket. Oh, and by the way, what are you going to do about those sins of your's that I just pointed out above?

I can only supply the knowledge of living in accordance to God.
If you're not interested...you are free to continue serving sin.
I forgive you for your aspersions.
See?
That "sin" was "covered" by my love for you.

 

[PJW]

Hi gb9, I agree with your points above and the misuse of scripture to play their petty little games is a huge sin. Decon say's, "such is the way and modus operandi of all workers for, "sinless perfectionists", and all who sell Jesus out in favor of a, "cafe blend false dogma."

They disrupt and derail threads and cause confusion among the poster's and are having a grand old time doing it. Some young believers may follow their corrupted beliefs and they will both fall into a pit. All of their disputes about bible verses are bate on a hook to draw "anyone" into their dead end arguments. You lose they win every time, its a game of wits.

Originally Posted by Studyman
Your scorn is miss-placed, TT. "I welcome it of course,​", but might we both be better served in addressing the actual scriptures, "all of them."

"I'm game if you are."

It is hard for me to consider obedience to God as a "corrupt belief".
Perhaps you would reconsider, and write back that you consider any defense of sin is the "corrupt belief"?

 

[Seohce]

My position is clear and I did answer.....lose the blinders and accusatory rose colored glasses and pay attention to the worda written...and quit lying through your teeth...how does that help your works flavored cracker jack dogma?

Is that a YES or a NO?

Ephesians 4:29-32 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.

 

[BillG]

I can only supply the knowledge of living in accordance to God.
If you're not interested...you are free to continue serving sin.
I forgive you for your aspersions.
See?
That "sin" was "covered" by my love for you.

You judge another brother by saying that you supply of living in accordance to God and if they don’t agree with you,
then you say “You are free to continue serving sin”

Then you say “I forgive you for your aspersions and that sin was covered by my love for you”

O dear o dear o dear.

I suppose I could say the same to you when you told me that God would not listen to me unless I stopped sinning

Ok my brother you made me feel like a piece of crap today because I admit that I do sin and when I come before God he won’t listen to me becuase I am serving sin. I asked you that question and I can’t see a response to that. But I forgive you because my sin is covered by my love for you even though you place a heavy burden on people, just like the Pharisees”

Get off your rocking horse, get your head out of your backside and walk with people who struggle and help them rather than condemning them.

Please forgiven my aspersions.

To be honest you don’t care if you don’t.

But you have upset me and I am sure many others here who acknowledge they sin and come before Jesus but according to you he isn’t listening.

I will stop here before I go beyond.

 

[PJW]

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
We are to "Rule over the sin that is in us" Neither I nor PJW has said anything different. There is a difference between the flesh and thought of man we fight against every day,(our Cross) and "Transgressing the Commandments of God by man made traditions and doctrines, our choice.

Blessings to you, Studyman...
BUT...If ALL our sins have been "cleansed", why would sin still be "in us"?
If we continue to walk "in the light", (which is God, v. 5), we won't commit any sin.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we confess sin, it is obvious we know of that sin. After confessing we would "Go and sin no more". Nothing new here.

I sometimes wish verse 9 were ahead of verse 7.
Our confession is done before we start our walk in God-light.
It is actually "step one", and then the walk proceeds from there.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
When has PJW ever said he never sinned? I am not siding with PJW, I don't know him at all, I only read the post that fired you guys up.

I was (nearly) worse than Paul, before my conversion.
But I am now "converted": from a servant of sin to a servant of God.
You can't serve two masters.

 

[BillG]

It is hard for me to consider obedience to God as a "corrupt belief".
Perhaps you would reconsider, and write back that you consider any defense of sin is the "corrupt belief"?

Obedince to God is not a corrupt belief.

But obedience to God is hard and it’s a walk.


Maybe not for those who consider themselves sinless and no longer committ sin.
The type who look down on others and condemn them to hell.

Similar to the religious sect that Jesus came against.

The same Jesus who died and rose again to go back to the Father so the Holy Spirit would come to be our helper.
HELPER, to tell us because of faith in Jesus we are saved and also to remind us that when we get it wrong Jesus is now in heaven as our advocate.

 

[PJW]

Thank God for eht new DNA we get when ww

ah yes...flak

Lets read the whole chapter.

~Dead to Sin, Alive to God
Rom 6:1　 What should we say, then? Should we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
　
Rom 6:2　 Of course not! How can we who died as far as sin is concerned go on living in it?
　
Rom 6:3　 Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into union with the Messiah Jesus were baptized into his death?　


Rom 6:4　 Therefore, through baptism we were buried with him into his death so that, just as the Messiah was raised from the dead by the Father's glory, we too may live an entirely new life.　


Rom 6:5　 For if we have become united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.　


Rom 6:6　 We know that our old natures were crucified with him so that our sin-laden bodies might be rendered powerless and we might no longer be slaves to sin.
　
Rom 6:7　 For the person who has died has been freed from sin.　


Rom 6:8　 Now if we have died with the Messiah, we believe that we will also live with him,　


Rom 6:9　 for we know that the Messiah, who was raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has mastery over him.　


Rom 6:10　 For when he died, he died once and for all as far as sin is concerned. But now that he is alive, he lives for God.　


Rom 6:11　 In the same way, you too must continually consider yourselves dead as far as sin is concerned, but living for God through the Messiah Jesus.　


Rom 6:12　 Therefore, do not let sin rule your mortal bodies so that you obey their desires.　


Rom 6:13　 Stop offering the parts of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness. Instead, offer yourselves to God as people who have been brought from death to life and the parts of your body as instruments of righteousness to God.　

not spirit, not soul. Body.


Rom 6:14　 For sin will not have mastery over you, because you are not under Law but under grace.　
Slaves to Righteousness
Rom 6:15　 What, then, does this mean? Should we go on sinning because we are not under Law but under grace? Of course not!　


Rom 6:16　 Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?　

Question. How then does one obey righteousness? We've been talking about this in many different threads, and we just read it too.


Rom 6:17　 But thank God that, though you were once slaves of sin, you became obedient from your hearts to that form of teaching with which you were entrusted!

What's the teaching?
　
Rom 6:18　 And since you have been freed from sin, you have become slaves of righteousness.

How do we serve then? all the same questions...all the same answers.　


Rom 6:19　 I am speaking in simple terms because of the frailty of your human nature. Just as you once offered the parts of your body as slaves to impurity and to greater and greater disobedience, so now, in the same way, you must offer the parts of your body as slaves to righteousness that leads to sanctification.　

Sanctification of what? Not soul, not spirit but what? And why?


Rom 6:20　 For when you were slaves of sin, you were "free" as far as righteousness was concerned.　


Rom 6:21　 What benefit did you get from doing those things you are now ashamed of? For those things resulted in death.

our dna has death. We need a whole new being.
　
Rom 6:22　 But now that you have been freed from sin and have become God's slaves, the benefit you reap is sanctification, and the result is eternal life.

This is bond slaves. Not as Israel served under laws to control....but of the ear pinned to the door of the one who loves his master. 　


Rom 6:23　 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in union with the Messiah Jesus our Lord.　

and the gift of God to His own is eternal life through His DNA, His life. Remember His body as you take the cup and wine.

Thank God for the new DNA we get when we are "raised with Christ to walk in newness of life". (Rom 6:4)

 

[PJW]

And you think YOUR SELF-SAVING YARDSTICK will CONTINUE TO SAVE YOU?

My yardstick is Christ.
What yardstick do the servants of sin use?

Thinking that you by your works, while walking in faith, can CONTINUE TO SAVE YOURSELF, is like WALKING ON THIN ICE. SOONER OR LATER, YOU WILL FAIL:

I don't think that for a second, as the "I" you reference has been killed, buried, and raised with Christ as a new creature, gendered by God, who doesn't bear evil fruit.

I WILL PUT MY ENTIRE TRUST ON JESUS TO KEEP ME SAVED, THANK YOU!

He wouldn't have allowed you to see/hear this message if He didn't love you.

 

[Seohce]

The last three posts of yours have proven you have no understanding and no need to even address a man who rejects the truth in favor of some sinless perfectionist ignorance!

Psalm 31:18,20 Let their lying lips be silenced, for with pride and contempt they speak arrogantly against the righteous. In the shelter of your presence you hide them from the intrigues of men; in your dwelling you keep them safe from accusing tongues.

Psalm 59:12 For the sins of their mouths, for the words of their lips, let them be caught in their pride. For the curses and lies they utter,

Proverbs 8:13 To fear the Lord is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.

Proverbs 11:2-3 When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. The integrity of the upright guides them, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity.

Proverbs 13:10 pride only breeds quarrels, but wisdom is found in those who take advice.

Proverbs 16:18 pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

Hebrews 4:12-13 For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

John 12:46-50 I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness. “As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”

 

[BillG]

My yardstick is Christ.
What yardstick do the servants of sin use?


I don't think that for a second, as the "I" you reference has been killed, buried, and raised with Christ as a new creature, gendered by God, who doesn't bear evil fruit.


He wouldn't have allowed you to see/hear this message if He didn't love you.

Is it possible in your mind that a believer can sin yet is not a servsnt of sin?

 

[VCO]

Prov. 15:8 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.

Prov. 15:29 The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.

Prov. 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.


You should study these scriptures and determine what they mean. Then decide if you should include them in your understanding, or reject them.

In this way you are beholden to God and not the words of some man.

And if you think this this body is already perfect, then HE should let you KEEP IT JUST THE WAY IT IS, and NOT change or give you a new body.


1 Corinthians 15:51-53 (NKJV)
[SUP]51 [/SUP] Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed--
[SUP]52 [/SUP] in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
[SUP]53 [/SUP] For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Like the saying goes, "YOU JUST MIGHT GET IT".

 

[VCO]

Is it possible in your mind that a believer can sin yet is not a servsnt of sin?

Or sin and just not realize it was sin, because he has not studied enough about what all GOD considers sin?

 

[Studyman]

Hi a Studyman

That doesn’t really answer my question to PJW who said that God will not listen to until I stop sinning (that’s how it came accross)

I know you are trying to encourage others to read the bible and what it says for itself and follow that because that is true and not what man made doctrines say and I agree.

But we all need to realise that our interpretation can be wrong but may not know it. That’s why interaction with each other is important.

When I look at the verses you posted David comes to mind.

Proverbs 15:9-10
9 The way of the wicked is an abomination to the Lord,
But He loves him who follows righteousness.
10 Harsh discipline is for him who forsakes the way,
And he who hates correction will die.

We find David, a man who sinned against God most of his life.
His sins led to many many deaths, adultery and a disfunctional family.

Yet we find God saying that he loves him becuase David was a man after his own heart.

David wasn’t wicked but did wicked things, he turned away from the law as a result of these wicked things therefore he turned his ear away from God.

But he always came back to God. He loved God and knew his righteousness he sought him out or should I say God sought him out.

But he didn’t hate the correction and he accepted the consequences of his wickedness before God.

God listened to the prayers of a man whom he loved and sought after him.

To me to say that God will not listen to a person who still sins and quotes with no biblical back up that Paul did not sin has not really researched what the bible is truly saying and what salvation is all about and what it means. Yet they post that on this thread.

Said person on response to my question “I thought the unforgivable sin was to reject Jesus, responded with not quite”

He came accross as saying “Unless we are sinless after conversion then that equates to the unforgivable sin”

Jesus pretty much offended just about every religious person on the planet at one point or another. The scripture says what it says. If you haven't studied, how can you make a judgment on someone who has?

What is the difference between

Prov. 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

And

Matt. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

I hope you will honor me with an answer to this question.


Jesus said you and I must "pick up our cross" (flesh, experiences, who we are )and follow Him. There is no shortcut. That is why I want you to study on your own. To many people place their truth in man and good looking religious doctrines and traditions. I don't want that for anyone you included.

I could never speak of David the way you just did. I could never use him as an excuse to sin in any circumstance. God placed a burden on his shoulders at an age where we were still smoking pot and stealing candy bars. He lived in fear his whole life that would make us vomit just to see it. King David did nothing to make Proverbs void or any other scripture void. He paid for his actions in a way we will never have to face, for his whole life. You would do good to read and understand this law.

"Thou shall not look on the nakedness of your father or brother"

2 Sam. 12:13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.

If Jesus put his sin away, then there is no sin. Period!!!


Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.

This was the worse part. God knew people would use David as an excuse to reject His Commandments for years and years to come.


And here we are all these years later, and even though it is written that he paid a huge price for his indiscretion, and even though it says the Lord took his indiscretion away, people are still using this deed to justify their own disobedience, doctrines and traditions, just like the Lord said they would.

No, you will never see me condemn or accuse Kind David of anything. As far as I'm concerned everything God placed on David was to teach me.

Sorry if I seem short. I understand the story of David and am very sensitive to it.

 

[BillG]

Jesus pretty much offended just about every religious person on the planet at one point or another. The scripture says what it says. If you haven't studied, how can you make a judgment on someone who has?

What is the difference between

Prov. 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

And

Matt. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

I hope you will honor me with an answer to this question.


Jesus said you and I must "pick up our cross" (flesh, experiences, who we are )and follow Him. There is no shortcut. That is why I want you to study on your own. To many people place their truth in man and good looking religious doctrines and traditions. I don't want that for anyone you included.

I could never speak of David the way you just did. I could never use him as an excuse to sin in any circumstance. God placed a burden on his shoulders at an age where we were still smoking pot and stealing candy bars. He lived in fear his whole life that would make us vomit just to see it. King David did nothing to make Proverbs void or any other scripture void. He paid for his actions in a way we will never have to face, for his whole life. You would do good to read and understand this law.

"Thou shall not look on the nakedness of your father or brother"

2 Sam. 12:13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.

If Jesus put his sin away, then there is no sin. Period!!!


Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.

This was the worse part. God knew people would use David as an excuse to reject His Commandments for years and years to come.


And here we are all these years later, and even though it is written that he paid a huge price for his indiscretion, and even though it says the Lord took his indiscretion away, people are still using this deed to justify their own disobedience, doctrines and traditions, just like the Lord said they would.

No, you will never see me condemn or accuse Kind David of anything. As far as I'm concerned everything God placed on David was to teach me.

Sorry if I seem short. I understand the story of David and am very sensitive to it.

Yes Jesus did ask pick our cross, but it doesn’t just relate to crucifying the flesh. It also relates to would we be willing to die for him.

I never used Davis as an excuse to sin.
I merely pointed out that he did, yet God still loved him becuase when he realised he did sin he was on his knees before him.

Ans yes I totally agree with you in that what he saw in those days would be make me vomit as well.

Just as much as we see today the social pressure put on people to feel loved and accepted or do this to show that you love someone. It makes me vomit.

Have you ever questioned what the biggest cause of death today in the western culture is between the ages of 20 & 30 is?

Its suicide.

I seem to have offended you about what I have talked about David, that was not my intention but it’s an isssue for you.
I was trying to make the point that yes he sinned and got it wrong but God still loved him.

The same applies today.

I can’t imagine the horrors he went through, just like those who have served in wars over the last century.

There is no reason for disobedience full stop, but there is hope for us in our disobedience and that hope is in Jesus and him alone.

 

[Studyman]

Blessings to you, Studyman...
BUT...If ALL our sins have been "cleansed", why would sin still be "in us"?
If we continue to walk "in the light", (which is God, v. 5), we won't commit any sin.


I sometimes wish verse 9 were ahead of verse 7.
Our confession is done before we start our walk in God-light.
It is actually "step one", and then the walk proceeds from there.


I was (nearly) worse than Paul, before my conversion.
But I am now "converted": from a servant of sin to a servant of God.
You can't serve two masters.

BUT...If ALL our sins have been "cleansed", why would sin still be "in us"?
If we continue to walk "in the light", (which is God, v. 5), we won't commit any sin.

Our past sin's have been cleansed. But we have our part, "If we continue to walk "in the light". But if you are preaching that we don't still have sinful flesh to over come, then we are in disagreement. We have our "Cross" to bear until the end. Jesus cleanses us of repentant sin, He doesn't eliminate our sinful flesh until the end.

1 Cor. 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.


53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.




Ex. 23:30 By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.

Sure, we repent and follow God on His Commandments we can all see, creating images of God, Holy days, Adultery, Sabbaths, killing, etc.

These are the easy sin's we and everyone can see that are easy to overcome

But the hidden enemies, the sins we hide from, these are the ones God has to drive out from our mind. By tests and temptation and chastening.

Rom. 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin (death)which is in my members.

Sin is always present in this life, we just don't let it rule our actions, works, fruits, thoughts.