Not By Works

[Meggido]

salvation is the start, apart from salvation, there will be no other good works.

Sorry, we part ways here....the Good work he starts and finishes in you is spiritual growth after salvation not salvation....becoming a son...

 

[Magenta]

I struggle when He points out areas of mistrust to me. I strive to grab that which I have been grabbed for. Not to say I have obtained perfection, but I strive. If you want to call that evil works, we are going to have to remain at an impasse, because I cannot stop striving to apprehend that which I have been apprehended for. I just look ahead and I reach. He put that will in me to strive, to race to trust more and more. Consider the possibility that you may be far more advanced than I am spiritually and that you may be trying to force on me what I am not yet ready to bear. It could be a possibility.

I can so relate to this! We say, I believe in God, and then we try to work things out our way instead of relying on Him to work all things to our good in His own way in His own time. I was so aware of this at one point... and find as EG said, the more I rely on Him, the more I find He is faithful, and have learned the long hard painful way that trying to do things "my way" is not the best

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Maybe we just aren't going to connect, and that's okay.
I struggle when He points out areas of mistrust to me. I strive to grab that which I have been grabbed for. Not to say I have obtained perfection, but I strive. If you want to call that evil works, we are going to have to remain at an impasse, because I cannot stop striving to apprehend that which I have been apprehended for. I just look ahead and I reach. He put that will in me to strive, to race to trust more and more. Consider the possibility that you may be far more advanced than I am spiritually and that you may be trying to force on me what I am not yet ready to bear. It could be a possibility.

Once again, we are not talking about the same thing, that's why you can not see or understand what I am saying

i am not talking about my mistrust in areas of my life, or trying to earn a reward,

i am talking about the fact God saved me forever and gave me eternal life, and nothing can take that fro.pm me, nor would I ever want to give it back because god has proven faithful every time I trust him.

Your trying to make salvation, eternal life, eternity with god based on what we must earn, not the great gift God gave us. That is what I see,


I asked you you earlier if you understood me yet I still do Not think you do,

 

[Magenta]

All you have to do is advance search them and all the threads they posted in come up

Yes, I said that I tried that, and it did not work for me, and someone else tried too, and it did not work for them either. I entered the name and hit enter and nothing came up for guests, after selecting a number of options from the search type, and even choosing all. Banned people come up no problem. Is there something else that needs to be done? I just tried again now, and again no luck.

 

[Rosemaryx]

you misunderstand

what i found was


i make an awful detective

Ok inspector Clueso ...Will still watch out for you ...xox...

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Sorry, we part ways here....the Good work he starts and finishes in you is spiritual growth after salvation not salvation....becoming a son...

See what. Mean, you just basically repeated what I sad, all I said is without salvation, there is no spiritual growth,

Thats what what I mean about people not trying to see what others are just saying and just assuming they know

plus, you just hurt your position, if god will finish the good work of spiritual growth, how could you ever fall away? You could not because God said he will complete that good work,

you can. It stop him, nor would you want to. Even if you could,

 

[Meggido]

Now I'm wondering if sevenseas; FranC; 7seasrekeyed were the same person all along...

I can assure you she is not....not stop speculating and starting rumors...All of you...

 

[Meggido]

faith is not doing it is trusting, we do because we trust, if we do not do, it is because we lack trust

using your example, when the commander told me to do something, and I did it and It worked, my faith grew, he was the author of he way, I trusted him, and he worked on finishing my faith by keeping putting me in places I will succeed,

the more he tells me to do and the more he is proven trustworthy, the more I do, and the harder I work, because my faith grows more and more,

if he told me to do something that did not work, my faith fell, I would not work so hard, if he kept failing, I would lose failth altogether,

Lets take this to God,

God said if I trust him, he will wash me, make me clean, change my life, give me hope, make me a new creature, give me rest and peace, and show me the way to lead a life which is blessed,

he is the author and finisher, because it is all based on his promises,he authored the way to these hinge, and he way to make sure these things come true

once i am saved, t he more things I do which seems odd to me before, and realize. My way is not Gods way, yet I was blessed by doing, my faith grows, the more I trust him, the more my faith grows,

in contrast, the times I decide I can handle it, and it fails. Or I am not blessed by doing it, Well then I realize how untrustworthy I am and how much more I need to trust God,

thats why may faith grows, because whenever I do it Gods way, it works, whenever I do it my way, I fall on my face,

now, I want to give that all up, and live a life of falling on my face? Why do you think the prodigal son returned. He knew his father was trustworthy and could take care of him,

fr usm we may forget how before we were saved we failed, no matter what we did, we could not find happiness, and when we tried to do it again, hwe failed again.

A person who can go go back to the world in unbelief in my view, never experienced gods faithfulness, you can not in my view experience that, then think you are better off on your own the old way, it won't happen (not to mentions, just like the commands will punish you your not following him, so will god, if your really his son or daughter)

I do not see what you are saying is represented at all in Heb 12.1-3....

 

[Meggido]

You are born again, you who were dead in trespasses and sin have been made alive in Christ.

this does not answer the question, but a good reply none the less...

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I do not see what you are saying is represented at all in Heb 12.1-3....

Your the the one who used the commander example, I just used it also,

have you ever served? I have, I have first hand experience of what it means to trust a commmander,

 

[stonesoffire]

Jesus, Founder and Perfecter of Our Faith
Heb 12:1　 Therefore, having so vast a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, and throwing off everything that hinders us and especially the sin that so easily entangles us, let us keep running with endurance the race set before us,　


Heb 12:2　 fixing our attention on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of the faith, who, in view of the joy set before him, endured the cross, disregarding its shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.　
Do Not Grow Weary
Heb 12:3　 Think about the one who endured such hostility from sinners, so that you may not become tired and give up.　

 

[Magenta]

See what. Mean, you just basically repeated what I sad, all I said is without salvation, there is no spiritual growth,

Thats what what I mean about people not trying to see what others are just saying and just assuming they know

plus, you just hurt your position, if god will finish the good work of spiritual growth, how could you ever fall away? You could not because God said he will complete that good work,

you can. It stop him, nor would you want to. Even if you could,

Spiritual growth after salvation strongly suggests... salvation

 

[UnderGrace]

You are right I tried too, and it does not search for people who are now guests

Yes, I said that I tried that, and it did not work for me, and someone else tried too, and it did not work for them either. I entered the name and hit enter and nothing came up for guests, after selecting a number of options from the search type, and even choosing all. Banned people come up no problem. Is there something else that needs to be done? I just tried again now, and again no luck.

 

[Rosemaryx]

very true

i was teasing


i actually did look but i wasnt trying to accuse

i thought of the "awful detective" joke before i even made the post (._.')


i was waiting for a "well what did you find" type of reply


im sorry

Hi Inspector Clueso ...No need to be sorry...If the new sees is Fran, then you can bet she is laughing at everyone because the thread is once now on her and not on Jesus...If it is her, then God will show us all, we wait upon the Lord who will show all things in His timing without us assuming, if nots Fran then let Laureen be Lareen lol, we all have similar traits but different personalities...xox...

 

[stonesoffire]

Sonship is to rule with His authority. The end of this I mean. We all are learning how to be children of God. I think most will relate to children, but the truth is that in the spirit we are not male or female, but our pattern is Jesus. The Son. We are sons too...but only one head. Members of the Son.

And Sonship is our salvation too. The end of our faith.

 

[Magenta]

You are right I tried too, and it does not search for people who are now guests

Thank you for trying Another thing is, if you have a person on ignore and try to use any of the search functions to find anything connected to them, it will not show up, either, because all their account information is essentially hidden to you, even though you can see when they make a post, their account info is not there unless you open the post. A guest account is essentially the same, because there is no profile/account any more. Everything connected with it has been deleted, aside from posts and threads they made If there was a way to use the search function for guests, that might be handy, but it is not something that overly concerns me, even though it would be handy if it were different . I am just sharing things I have learned

 

[stonesoffire]

I need to include this too...the end of our faith is the salvation of our soul. Our soul is in need, not our spirit.

 

[Meggido]

Once again, we are not talking about the same thing, that's why you can not see or understand what I am saying

i am not talking about my mistrust in areas of my life, or trying to earn a reward,

i am talking about the fact God saved me forever and gave me eternal life, and nothing can take that fro.pm me, nor would I ever want to give it back because god has proven faithful every time I trust him.

Your trying to make salvation, eternal life, eternity with god based on what we must earn, not the great gift God gave us. That is what I see,


I asked you you earlier if you understood me yet I still do Not think you do,

Bro with love and total respect, I really have no idea what you believe in.....it is probably my lack of understanding and not you....been fruitful and it will continue to be...but just how I see it....

 

[Meggido]

Ok inspector Clueso ...Will still watch out for you ...xox...

Did someone say Bomb.....

 

[Magenta]

If the new sees is Fran, then you can bet she is laughing at everyone because the thread is once now on her and not on Jesus...

Please don't include me I have not been talking about either of them...

(Just for the record, not that you said I had.)