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So you're telling me to obey God while telling me at the same time that I'm slandering God's people for promoting obedience to God's Word and commands. Isn't that very hypo...?
Matthew 23:3 So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
Spoken like a true WOF'er
Just ignore that ungodly behavior - it has a purpose....
..All is well!And that is the reason Romans 16:17 and Hebrews 12:15 is profitable for us.
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I have explained it several times. And I'm confident that you were active in all the places I did that. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and accept that you simply did not read those posts.
I'm curious. Do you still not understand that works are only 'required' in salvation because they are the expected and obligatory outcome of having faith? John says the person who says they know Christ but has no godly agape love for others is a liar and does not know God and belongs to the devil. The love doesn't save the person, it signifies that they know Christ in salvation.
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Yes those who walk in the flesh cannot please God......
But have you given up all your possessions?
But have you given up all your possessions?
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God knows that I have nothing more to give because I stored up my riches in heaven and not on earth.
Matthew 6:19-24 Treasures in Heaven “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness! “No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.
"19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.”
20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear;
21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.
22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off." (Romans 11:19-22 NASB)
This is not speaking on a personal level. This chapter speaks about the Jewish nation and the Gentiles. This is not saying that an individual who has the promise that the Lord will never leave them nor forsake them (Hebrews 13:5) will be rejected by the Lord.
But just as the Jews rejected their Messiah and therefore, as a whole, have fallen from the favored status they once occupied, if the Gentiles totally rejected Him, they could likewise be rejected.
20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear;
21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.
22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off." (Romans 11:19-22 NASB)
This is not speaking on a personal level. This chapter speaks about the Jewish nation and the Gentiles. This is not saying that an individual who has the promise that the Lord will never leave them nor forsake them (Hebrews 13:5) will be rejected by the Lord.
But just as the Jews rejected their Messiah and therefore, as a whole, have fallen from the favored status they once occupied, if the Gentiles totally rejected Him, they could likewise be rejected.
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Originally Posted by Stephen63
Spoken like a true WOF'er
Just ignore that ungodly behavior - it has a purpose....
And that is the reason Romans 16:17 and Hebrews 12:15 is profitable for us.
It has been peaceful now that I can't see all the nonsense.
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eternally-gratefull
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HOw are you talking in a Christian chat room then? If you have the equipment and resources to talk here, you have not given all your riches,
do do you have a car? If so your considered in the top ten of income makers on the earth.
God knows that I have nothing more to give because I stored up my riches in heaven and not on earth.
Matthew 6:19-24 Treasures in Heaven “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness! “No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.
Well.. You could give up that computer or phone you use to try and beat your brethren. You could give up your "possession" of the time you spend attempting to beat your brethren and use it to help the needy.
If we are going by your interpretation of Scripture then you are found sorely lacking.
Perhaps you can try loving your brethren.
We love you, and only want God's best for you. Have a blessed day!
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Well it seems you have set the standard for your faith with Matthew 6 19-24. Which is faith in your own works to save.
The object of my faith is Jesus and His work.
I'd bet God has a differing version than your version of yourself.
That said, how is it that in all your self-proclaimed righteousness, that you are most unlike Christ in this manner; that you show no grace toward others? Just wondering how you can be so right with God, and yet don't possess the things in Hebrews 12:14 toward others, both being an evidence of true conversion.
We shall see.
The next time I pull you on the carpet it will be very obvious.
We shall see.....
Got to go to work. I fully expect you all to have this hashed out by time I get home. And pick up your laundry, take out the trash, and do the dishes! 
One thing I'm sure is that what you're saying is to try to put me together with you in your guilty conscience, but I'm not buying that. Maybe you know who's doing those tactics according to the bible.
When Jesus confronted the scribes & pharisees, He did not judge a single righteous man, for none of them He confronted were righteous.