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I saw a beautiful statement when first logging on. a new member saying she sings in the Spirit to an audience of 1, like it muchly...
matt 13 Said about good soil, there is a Christian that endureth in persecution, but there is a Christian that not endureth in persecution.
Christian are protected and save If he keep abide to the vine.
but there is Rocky type Christian in matt 13 that lose they salvation If there is persecution.
Because I believe EVERYONE who has faith (believes) in jesus as their lord and savior WILL follow his commands (although I do not believe anyone will be perfect. and some will obey a lot more than others)
WHo is afraid? No one is afraid. The only person that says anyone is afraid is you.
Gods people WILL WORK
Gods people WILL OBEY
Gods people WILL grow
Gods people WILL not live like they used to
Gods people WILL be changed, Because God made them new creatures.
are you afraid of the word will?? Why?
Again, Saying it is REQUIRED is teaching works..
I believe faith works,, why do you not agree? why do you think a person can have faith and not work?
Galatians 5: Christ Has Set Us Free
1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.
give a big wave , there gos, your saviour. with that choice.
the saviour, who gave you grace, and mercy.( and acts 15)
to be lead by the holy spirit,(by the rhema)
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I just remembered something from years ago. My very first prophetic word was I was a soldier on the front lines. I guess we do battle but I thought it was against the enemy, not the brethren.
a gentile,
believe in a god through jesus christ.
not a god, through jewish law.
my point, we never came to understand, about a god, without being told about a saviour firstly.
For God So Loved the World
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God
(you are condemned by not believing in a saviour. )
firstly , when did i need a law, to believe in a saviour.
believe in a god through jesus christ.
not a god, through jewish law.
my point, we never came to understand, about a god, without being told about a saviour firstly.
For God So Loved the World
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God
(you are condemned by not believing in a saviour. )
firstly , when did i need a law, to believe in a saviour.
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PHart
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The passage doesn't say they 'didn't really believe'. OSAS has taught the church to instantly interpret soil #2 as the person who never 'really' believed. I just go with what Jesus said: "they believe for a while" (Luke 8:13 NASB). Soil #2 believed for a while. That's what it says.
He did include that scenario. That's soil #3...
"22“And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful. " (Matthew 13:22 NASB)
Correct. There is no mention of choking or withering in soil #4. It's good soil, that's why it's that way. If soil #4 doesn't keep his 'garden' weeded, his soil will become as soil #3 in which those weeds "choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful." (Matthew 13:22 NASB).
And unfortunately that is why it is good to just ignore them and preach and teach the truth of the gospel of the grace of God in Christ. Let the Lord sort them and all of us out. To continue to interact with these types is defiling and it does have a "purpose".
People can just state what is believed - give the scriptures and leave it at that.
Let them slander others and be controlled by malice. The Lord has shown me that they are hurting and hurt people attack others. Some of them are our brothers and sisters in the Lord - some may not be. The Lord will decide that when the time comes.
Galatians 5:15-16 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another
[SUP]16 [/SUP] But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
Hebrews 12:15 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
A sign of being a baby Christian is shown below in 1 Peter 2:1-2.
It doesn't matter if we have been a Christian for 50 years, pastor a church for 30 years, be able to speak Greek, Hebrew , Aramaic, pray in tongues 5 hours a day...etc. None of these are signs of maturity although they are good things within themselves.
1 Peter 2:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation,
It just cuts me to the core though...and I know you understand. I try to answer with scripture then it's ignored and answered with their own words.
And you know how I feel about Pastor Bill. grrr...somebody please tape my fingers.
and war on the computers were started because , (would that be the past or the future)
who payed the soldier , would need to be asked for justification for being there.
an army, dose not live on bread alone.
if the jewish law, was put in place, to stop crime or sin.
when it came to war , the bible reads, god told them. (to keep it short)
in modern day war, who told them to go to war, (would only lead to, a logic ,to prolong life,(by the wage payer)
only god , decides, who the all is, he saved is.
only if we knew ,who the enemy is, good thing, about a personal relationship, god can speak to us all, at anytime. even in death.
picking and choosing ,who your respond to, only show one thing.
there is no point, in only quoting, half a story, if jesus is in heaven, before you opened your bible to read it.
the fruit never came from a seed, it came through the rhema(the holy spirit)
logos can be misrepresented , with out context.
the jewish never understood , because he only talked to the crowds in parables .
if a parable has many meaning, how can you be correct. (given, the date jesus spoke these words)
ie reading the bible is not listening to the bible. etc
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ignore is your choice.
if you continue in a lie, your choice,
misrepresenting the meaning, of the bible ,your choice.
believing in a saviour your choice.
continuing with a saviour , the saviours choice, and lead. etc
1 Corinthians 12: Spiritual Gifts
1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed.
if the law, condemns you.
when ,did a saviour ignore you.
unfortunately, silence works both ways.
when did we preach, a risen saviour, that ignore others.
so interpretation and action ,would only lead others in to ignorance, because of dislike.
a blind guide , that only thinks a saviour saved you. (your choice to follow, a blind guide)etc
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PHart
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NOOOOOOOO!
Call each other names. Accuse each other of this or that, but do NOT start singing that....that song, lol.
[video]https://youtube/WpYeekQkAdc[/video]
shoot, doesn't work on the iPad. I'll torture you tomorrow phart.
shoot, doesn't work on the iPad. I'll torture you tomorrow phart.
is justification to sing a song, it is your choice to listen, to that song.,
listening to some else s song , dos not make it, your song.
what the song proves ,when listen to or read is, for the listener to decide.
Psalms 23: The LORD Is My Shepherd
A Psalm of David.
1 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He makes me lie down in green pastures.
He leads me beside still waters.
3 He restores my soul.
He leads me in paths of righteousness
for his name's sake.
4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.
5 You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies;
you anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me
all the days of my life,
and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD
forever.
.17 For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
.42 And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.43 To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."
For God So Loved the World
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of GodJohn 3
listening to some else s song , dos not make it, your song.
what the song proves ,when listen to or read is, for the listener to decide.
Psalms 23: The LORD Is My Shepherd
A Psalm of David.
1 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He makes me lie down in green pastures.
He leads me beside still waters.
3 He restores my soul.
He leads me in paths of righteousness
for his name's sake.
4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.
5 You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies;
you anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me
all the days of my life,
and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD
forever.
.17 For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
.42 And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.43 To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."
For God So Loved the World
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of GodJohn 3
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sevenseas
Guest
well then hush and don't tell her I have the same lack of fondness that you have identified
touch not mine idol.....annotated....oh wait I'll get it yet......annoying...no. no that's not it either. you know, what they say when a false prophet starts mouthing off and some silly person says...'ahem. I don't believe that is actually God? hello? ' and someone goes 'don't touch my...dog! still getting it mixed up. let me try again
'don't touch mine anointed.' got it this time.
they get to thinking they are gods so they think they have the right to call a false prophet an annointed cherub. uh...er..the guy who speaks on behalf of the Almighty...ok...that's it
yet, when God DID speak, and allowed the false spirit on Todd Bentely to manifest with adultery, death in those he said were healed, angel worship (emma...who can forget her...it... whatever) and punching a man in the stomach with cancer (in the stomach) WHAM BAM...(he actually said that...Todd, not the poor man), telling him he was healed and then not even attending the funeral when the man died NOT LONG AFTER.
why do I bring up Todd? because Bill was at the inaugurational ball...the false apostles anointing the false prophet/healer and giving him the right hand of hypocrisy and lying wonders
and bill, told everyone to kiss and makeup and Todd was forgiven. just like that. even a Catholic priest would have taken pause, but no, these dudes just gave him time off for the STRESS HE WAS UNDER and then let him back in
wisdom is not only crying out in the streets
wisdom is bleeding all over the streets and these fakirs (yes I spelled that right look it up and for pete sakes don't argue over the meaning it only has one) have stepped over her as she is pulling on their trousers and looking into their hard faces and begging them to stop
I'll stop too now
wake up