Not By Works

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Magenta said:
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funny haha i wonders if your in that picture too coz i cant see a bull lol
 
eternally-gratefull said:
What does that have to do with what you said? What you said makes no sense, UNLESS you are sinless was my point.

Think about it, think about what you said, and how it only makes sense if you are sinless,

if you are still confused ask me, I will try to explain it to you.
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Sorry bro but i cannot fall into your trap. I don't mean to be rude but I cannot say that I'm a sinner and afterwards claim to be born again in Christ otherwise I make my Lord of no value to me and I become a worthless servant to my Lord.

Luke 6:45 The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.
 
JIMBO43 said:
if its a guarentee then yes but im on the fence meg.. i see God guarenteeing it however i dont see everyone honoring that guarentee
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thats why God gives punishment now what if after the punishment the guarenteeor dicides God had no right to punish him ? what then..
 
Seohce said:
Sorry bro but i cannot fall into your trap. I don't mean to be rude but I cannot say that I'm a sinner and afterwards claim to be born again in Christ otherwise I make my Lord of no value to me and I become a worthless servant to my Lord.

Luke 6:45 The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.
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it is not a trap, just reality,

john said if we deny we have sin we are decieved. Paul said he still had a battle between the flesh and spirit. But told us what to do, and most importantly. Told us not to think we have made it, but continue to run the race,

i still sin, those are the facts, I can not fall into your trap and deny I have any sin, I will stunt my growth, deceive myself, and have to start Fooling myself into thinking I have made it, why run the race when I already arrived?

thanks but no thanks.
 
JIMBO43 said:
nope you got that wrong Gods guarentee is honorable by expressions of Good behaviour like neb.. coz God could quite easily give a life sentence.
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God already gave a Gave a life sentence, he saved us from that sentence by sending His son, his gift, he still owns our salvation
 
the comman sence logic of a guarentee given by a vendor.. we will give you a twenty year guarentee on your roof providing you dont get wood worm.. we can treat the wood for you at an extra cost..
 
JIMBO43 said:
lol you know what i ment...... i was wondering when someone would mention this.. what i ment was your dead unless god raises you back to life... he doest speak to you whilst your dead.
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Lol I could play lawyer and say that technically while you were dead is exactly when God spoke to you to bring you back to life. But yeah I know what you mean....lol even it isn't what you said.
 
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.


please note verse befor who ever has the son does this [SUP]2 [/SUP]This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. [SUP]3 [/SUP]In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, [SUP]4 [/SUP]for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. [SUP]5 [/SUP]Who is it that overcomes the world? Only the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.


it soley depends on whether you look at scripture head on or look at it from a future world like lookng in a mirror you see a reflection.. well i wreckon scripture should be read backwards to as to get its true reflection..
 
Mitspa said:
I have not been on the site in a while..but we did not just call people fool a few months ago without getting some sort of rebuke from the mods...no need for that kind of behavior in my view
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I agree. I have very few people on my ignore list and he is the only one on it, currently.

Every Sunday I erase my ignore list. Then as folks start posting insults and acting in such an immature way, I put them on ignore and only read their comments when they are quoted if I have time.

Make it so I can actually have a decent conversation, but I do slim/skip posts that are off topic and just fighting unless God moves me heart to compassion to speak and intervene.

.I tend to get bashed by both sides of those argument for my troubles, so I just pray and only speak of I believe God tells me I should.

I stay in this thread because I believe that preaching that salvation is by Faith and Not works is important foundation.

After the foundation is laid, the roots need to be sunk deep into Christ. Then mature Christians can do good works to glorify God.

However too often people advocate for child labor instead of growth and maturity in Christ.
 
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