Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

I am putting on weight just looking at it.

Yeah it looks scrumptious HAHAHAHHA

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

I am putting on weight just looking at it.

I will lift a finger to take some of the heavy weight of that cake off of you.
And I'd suggest that anyone else who wants a piece grab it before Bruces refeed day.

 

[Burninglight]

I will lift a finger to take some of the heavy weight of that cake off of you.
And I'd suggest that anyone else who wants a piece grab it before Bruces refeed day.

People shouldn't post evil things like that on the forum.

 

[Meggido]

i havent been paying attention but i would love for you to tell me what doctrine you are referring to whenever you time if you would

im at work

so if you dont ill read later and piece it together


thanks either way

^_^

Hey bro....this is what I was referring to...if oyu need any clarification, let me know...sorry I posted it late, I did not see this post right away

Hebrews 6.1-3

Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, [SUP]2 [/SUP]of instruction about washings and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead and eternal judgment. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And this we will do, if God permits.

 

[Meggido]

Hmm...a man does not pick up a cross unless something is going to die on it. It IS an instrument of death. If you pick up your cross and follow, you will be laying a lot of things on it, but at the same time, you ARE doing what He calls you to do, which is to deny yourself, give up your life, and follow.

quite correct....

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And there's the rub.
He was without sin.
He could judge righteously.
We cannot judge righteously while having pride and bitterness.

You will follow His behavior of getting rough with a sinner and overturning a table but you will not lay down your pride, (which is to die for the sake of your brother.) It is to give up your right to be treated well, to not revile back when reviled - not to expect better treatment or respect or honor than your Lord received.

wow, so all these churches do not believe in discipline.

No no wonder the church has lost its power,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Who has attacked you EG?

Lol you people do not get it,

it it has nothing to do with peopl attacking me, it has to do with a few select people lying about. and slandering other people, and not being held accountable. But people defend them in there sin as if they have done no wrong, and wonder why we have no peace in CC

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I understand his point....it seems there are a few that consistently misrepresent what he states and or applies things that he does not believe unto him.....just saying........

Pits not just me bro, to you, grace777, and everyone else who believes as we do,

its RS not even a doctrinal issue, we can get past disagreements, we can't get past slander,they do it on purpose,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yes, I have seen that happen in here with all of us at times. But we can usually work it out and usually without slinging words like heretic, slanderer, pharisaical, lost, etc.

But EG and peter have had this longstanding feud which mucks up so many threads and makes so many miserable and unable to discuss different things they want to discuss with each other.

They have both been awful to each other at times. Eg rants aloud more and peter goes the route of more sneaky digs. They refuse to stop it though. Neither of them will disengage or ignore the other. At this point, they are both overtaken by the pride of winning the battle, and it's quite apparent to all of us that neither ever will.

It's painful to watch them harming themselves in this way and not walking in the Spirit. All the wasted time. All the peace and joy that could be both of theirs. It's extremely painful to watch.

i have Peter on ignore, and t is not just peter, it is not there too,

wh why do we just ignore there is a problem, instead of getting to the source

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The duplicity of your ongoing contradictions is reaching epic proportions

Dude go away, I do not know who you were before but it s obvious you have had an issue with me in the past, nothingyou say is meaningful anymore,

 

[Meggido]

And there's the rub.
He was without sin.
He could judge righteously.
We cannot judge righteously while having pride and bitterness.

You will follow His behavior of getting rough with a sinner and overturning a table but you will not lay down your pride, (which is to die for the sake of your brother.) It is to give up your right to be treated well, to not revile back when reviled - not to expect better treatment or respect or honor than your Lord received.

I see some on this chat board and wonder how in blue blazes they deal with real ministry people in real life...There is not a day that goes by in real ministry life, that I am not attacked, lied about, lied on, corrected by super spiritual people with knowledge but no wisdom, have to get in the middle of food fights over doctrine and the worst, betrayals....

When I was called into ministry and began the entry process a very wise old mentor/pastor told me to pray for meekness and wisdom....he told me meekness is power under surrender and control to the Holy Spirit....and that if you truly give Jesus all of you, you will be able to endure to the end.....that Pastor made me study Moses for 3 months....and I learned a lot about meekness....he also gave me this bit of wisdom...Ministry is about people....and ministry would be great except for the people...

My wife and I have walked through some doozies as far as people lying on us, betraying us, etc....without the Holy Spirit, we would have given up years ago...

This will sound super harsh, but it is truth....One can see the reactions on the BDF and can easily discern who is called in real life, who is not at, and who are just playing games....personally speaking and not directed towards any specific poster at all....some here would not last a minute in real ministry....and if they are engaged in real they will crash an burn....and they will because as you were so right about....you must die to yourself totally and the Spirit must burn all flesh out of you....and the most important thing is this....you learn to let God validate and approve of you...

Many are called...few are chosen and even fewer are ever sent into their true call, because they cannot surrender and die to themselves...

 

[eternally-gratefull]

you going to take this perception to EG as well...or does he get a pass...I am calling a spade a spade....

Lynn and EG and few others give the perception they want a private sandbox to play in....they think their tenure should afford them that...fine...go get a server software and they can start their own chat board.....

I am calling it a spade a spade too. But that means nothing to you, wow, talk above it being the hypocrite

its fine for your u to call me out?

but it if I call a liar a liar, a slanderer a slanderer, I am evil,

thanks further proof you are nt Not a reliable source of anything, but like a few other there have some point to grind

 

[dcontroversal]

Pits not just me bro, to you, grace777, and everyone else who believes as we do,

its RS not even a doctrinal issue, we can get past disagreements, we can't get past slander,they do it on purpose,

I fully agree........and like Grace states.....the sky is blue HHAHAHH

We have consistently defended ourselves against this farce that we teach live as you want or do as you please because be believe in eternal salvation dia grace and faith.....

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Make no mistake....he and I have had our disagreements as well.....and you should know by now I am not afraid to engage anyone bro......and notice the ? in my post....I did not accuse, but asked without heat and or mouth.....!

Here re is the difference, you and your dson shares, we agree to disagree,

you do do not make up stuff about me, lie and slander me wth false truths, or tell a there. Am something I am not to make yourself look good, blame shift the problem on me, and ignore your slander wn wrong (if you were wrong)

we dsagree as men men and fellow mates and walk away



as i have said for the umpteenth time now, and NO ONE seems to care

it s not the doctrinal disagreement that is the issue, I disagree with many in here on numerous topics. There is not issue

 

[eternally-gratefull]

understand DCON...this is why I went back an edited, not deleted that post...the perception si that a few select want to censor people...

I think people get stuck on doctrine and cannot move off of it....to be honest we are all arguing over something Paul called an elementary doctrine...Faith toward God...

Censor people?

wow you really missed it

what we want is s for lpeople who lie about others to get their own way to be called out about it.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

i havent been paying attention but i would love for you to tell me what doctrine you are referring to whenever you time if you would

im at work

so if you dont ill read later and piece it together


thanks either way

^_^

Once again, t is not a doctrinal issue, if he tries to tell you t is, he he s wrong

 

[dcontroversal]

Here re is the difference, you and your dson shares, we agree to disagree,

you do do not make up stuff about me, lie and slander me wth false truths, or tell a there. Am something I am not to make yourself look good, blame shift the problem on me, and ignore your slander wn wrong (if you were wrong)

we dsagree as men men and fellow mates and walk away



as i have said for the umpteenth time now, and NO ONE seems to care

it s not the doctrinal disagreement that is the issue, I disagree with many in here on numerous topics. There is not issue

AMEN.....You and I agree on much and we have a few disagreements about the END ahahah one day you will come onboard HAHAHHAHAHA jokes....and your right....we don't say the other one says this when that is not what we say etc...and at the end of the day you are correct we just agree to disagree without spreading falsehood about what the other believes....

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I fully agree........and like Grace states.....the sky is blue HHAHAHH

We have consistently defended ourselves against this farce that we teach live as you want or do as you please because be believe in eternal salvation dia grace and faith.....

its the same one les

you love sin

you hate people who love god

ypu hate people who do work

i can go on and on,

if if you believe you must work to maintain salvation, then preach t, you do not have to lie about others to make your belief work,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

AMEN.....You and I agree on much and we have a few disagreements about the END ahahah one day you will come onboard HAHAHHAHAHA jokes....and your right....we don't say the other one says this when that is not what we say etc...and at the end of the day you are correct we just agree to disagree without spreading falsehood about what the other believes....

​that's my whole issue, there was a time this stuff was not tolerated in CC I wish we would g back

 

[Meggido]

I understand his point....it seems there are a few that consistently misrepresent what he states and or applies things that he does not believe unto him.....just saying........

Not a judgement, just an observation.

Maybe this happens because he engages in duplicity and contradiction more than anyone else on this topic... and then he lashes out when he is called out on his contradiction and duplicity, not his doctrine or beliefs......at lest that is the only time I engage and challenge him...

He constantly feels like it his right to launch into people and correct them, yet does not feel the same should be afforded to him....he direct attack on my lack of discipline and my fellowship was all flesh.....it was spiteful, silly and childish...when I answered him and asked him is this him defending the gospel or him being a flesh controlled wannabe...he got more vile...he got that way, because he got caught in contradiction....I have no ill will against the brother, but I answered you here, because I placed him on ignore....I think it is best for both of us to lay low from each other for awhile...the ignore is not done in anger...just needs to be done...

I have no time to play in the kiddie pool with a brother that only wants to dish it out, but cannot take it....