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PeterJens said:
Ex marine and chicken. I suppose all the guns, the macho image, the accusations,
the I can take you mano to mano, lol.

But when it comes to facts and truth, .............................................
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Now the problem with faith is the word faith. It actually means something.
If you want to correct someone or even make a point, it is more than slander
or accusation, it is taking the risk, putting your faith on the line and making
the argument.

Now a bible school trained guy should know the score. But it must be you know
you have nothing, not even verses, just conviction.

Now coming before the King and saying, I felt I was right, that was good enough
surely.

Jesus said, "I never knew you, you evil doers"

Now if one knows one does evil and it is not resolved, then unfortunately the bad
news is you know which line you have crossed. But this reality is so known and
dismissed I do not think there is ever a way back, it is so rejected.

But there is always hope, because I know so little and this is just a thread full of
posers who like to sound big and brash, but it is only texts on the internet, and
to most a waste of time and effort, lol. But I always work for the Lord in all I do,
so I offer a sincere hand of love and support, let us walk in the word together and
encourage one another in Christ, amen.
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Its not wise to mock a marine especially when there every where lol....
 
JIMBO43 said:
Thats not quite the same and you know it.

A free loader is someone who has a selfish ambition as well as ruthless couldnt care less attiude just two reasons of many definitions of a free loader... they load a way all day ignoring the pleas for help...:rolleyes:
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Yep

And a child that oves his parents do not question their parents love, but knows that their parent will love them no matter what.

Thats why a parent gives a child a gift every christmas, whether they deserved them or not. Its called love.

I know this may be hard for you to comprehend, and you may think it is free loading (because we believe our God loves us that way, ad gave us his most precious gift, even though we did not, are not and will never earn that gift
 
JIMBO43 said:
Its not wise to mock a marine especially when there every where lol....
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Exactly....like a paint ball gun dialed down to a level where they bounce off wet toilet paper.....and to be honest....I will no longer condescend to his level and address comments like the one he made....
 
JIMBO43 said:
do you believe salvation comes through the heart ?
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I would say it comes through Jesus and when I place my faith in him then he enters my heart.
Gives me a new heart that seeks after him, to be like him and walk with him.

Hope that makes sense
 
dcontroversal said:
Exactly....like a paint ball gun dialed down to a level where they bounce off wet toilet paper.....and to be honest....I will no longer condescend to his level and address comments like the one he made....
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Side note, did you ever consider the SBS?
 
JIMBO43 said:
Its not wise to mock a marine especially when there every where lol....
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Wise, I am sorry, just because someone puts a gun into someones hands and said go kill
does not make them wise, it is often at the other end of the scale into brute ignorance.

I think the behaviour here demonstrates it.

The smaller the sentences the more the reader sees what they want to see, and the
person writing it means something different than than is being understood.

Scripture has some red lines you do not cross.
1. Ignore Jesus's commands
2. Dishonour His intentions
3. Attack believers other than for sinful behaviour and heresy
4. Change theology to meet cultural or life style pressures
5. Dishonour the old testament and God laws

So it is no surprise a group who do all of these things should be apostate and
heretical, filled full of ex-believers who now attach the church as evil and empty.

There is nothing friendly or nice about their intentions and the emotions that drive
them are aggressive and intentionally intimidatatory.

The problem for them is the people of God are called to listen, love and understand,
and then see the truth of what is going on and then respond. So there is no defeat
or capitulation, it is just working through the issues, of no work, idleness, no desire
to resolve sinful behaviour, no fixed moral centre or anchor, a different theological
language and a total mixture of previous and current heresies of WOF, health, wealth,
NAR, speaking forth faith etc. so no one person in the group is truly consistent or quite
the same as the other.

And on the subject of a marine, a true marine knows his value in the battle field and there
alone, it means nothing in other arenas. Taking out people is about strategic use of lethal
force, faith is about knowing Gods will and serving Him.
 
eternally-gratefull said:


Yep

And a child that oves his parents do not question their parents love, but knows that their parent will love them no matter what.

Thats why a parent gives a child a gift every christmas, whether they deserved them or not. Its called love.

I know this may be hard for you to comprehend, and you may think it is free loading (because we believe our God loves us that way, ad gave us his most precious gift, even though we did not, are not and will never earn that gift
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I guess you know my heart then too ???? :rolleyes:
 
I didn't get a present from my mom every Christmas because we were poor, but I knew she still loved me.
 
PeterJens said:
Wise, I am sorry, just because someone puts a gun into someones hands and said go kill
does not make them wise, it is often at the other end of the scale into brute ignorance.

I think the behaviour here demonstrates it.

The smaller the sentences the more the reader sees what they want to see, and the
person writing it means something different than than is being understood.

Scripture has some red lines you do not cross.
1. Ignore Jesus's commands
2. Dishonour His intentions
3. Attack believers other than for sinful behaviour and heresy
4. Change theology to meet cultural or life style pressures
5. Dishonour the old testament and God laws

So it is no surprise a group who do all of these things should be apostate and
heretical, filled full of ex-believers who now attach the church as evil and empty.

There is nothing friendly or nice about their intentions and the emotions that drive
them are aggressive and intentionally intimidatatory.

The problem for them is the people of God are called to listen, love and understand,
and then see the truth of what is going on and then respond. So there is no defeat
or capitulation, it is just working through the issues, of no work, idleness, no desire
to resolve sinful behaviour, no fixed moral centre or anchor, a different theological
language and a total mixture of previous and current heresies of WOF, health, wealth,
NAR, speaking forth faith etc. so no one person in the group is truly consistent or quite
the same as the other.

And on the subject of a marine, a true marine knows his value in the battle field and there
alone, it means nothing in other arenas. Taking out people is about strategic use of lethal
force, faith is about knowing Gods will and serving Him.
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lol what should we do with theese apostates should we prayer for them or hand them over to the hit squad ?
 
PeterJens said:
Wise, I am sorry, just because someone puts a gun into someones hands and said go kill
does not make them wise, it is often at the other end of the scale into brute ignorance.

I think the behaviour here demonstrates it.

The smaller the sentences the more the reader sees what they want to see, and the
person writing it means something different than than is being understood.

Scripture has some red lines you do not cross.
1. Ignore Jesus's commands
2. Dishonour His intentions
3. Attack believers other than for sinful behaviour and heresy
4. Change theology to meet cultural or life style pressures
5. Dishonour the old testament and God laws

So it is no surprise a group who do all of these things should be apostate and
heretical, filled full of ex-believers who now attach the church as evil and empty.

There is nothing friendly or nice about their intentions and the emotions that drive
them are aggressive and intentionally intimidatatory.

The problem for them is the people of God are called to listen, love and understand,
and then see the truth of what is going on and then respond. So there is no defeat
or capitulation, it is just working through the issues, of no work, idleness, no desire
to resolve sinful behaviour, no fixed moral centre or anchor, a different theological
language and a total mixture of previous and current heresies of WOF, health, wealth,
NAR, speaking forth faith etc. so no one person in the group is truly consistent or quite
the same as the other.

And on the subject of a marine, a true marine knows his value in the battle field and there
alone, it means nothing in other arenas. Taking out people is about strategic use of lethal
force, faith is about knowing Gods will and serving Him.
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understood captain eye eye sir........:D
 
BillG said:
I thought is was special boat service in the US like SAS over here.

Ive just looked it up, it seems to be the UK navy, the equivalent of our SAS.
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That would be Navy Seals or Marine Recon.........the Army and Air Force have their equivalent as well.......I have friends who have served with SAS and even British Royal Marines....they are both very lethal....
 
JIMBO43 said:
lol what should we do with theese apostates should we prayer for them or hand them over to the hit squad ?
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We do nothing with them, they are free to do what they want, we just know the
answers to the points they are raising. Once you recognise the threat and understand
it, it can no longer be disguised or taken for something it is not.

It is why the core powerbase is to convince the church it needs to change to their faith,
because they have no other source of converts.
 
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with no proof to your own logic or stand in faith, then ask them, to fight death, instead of causing it. (why dose it need a gun. )would be a logical response , to someone that retains logic or wisdom.

if it can not stand up, with the the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God

(and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God,1Ephesians 6)


why dose truths logic need answering , if you have a personal faith, then you are in charge of what logic you retain, then you will answer, for your own action, but can you answer for them, who allowed or gave you gun in the first place. may be thats, why they let you have guns, in the first place.
 
PeterJens said:
We do nothing with them, they are free to do what they want, we just know the
answers to the points they are raising. Once you recognise the threat and understand
it, it can no longer be disguised or taken for something it is not.

It is why the core powerbase is to convince the church it needs to change to their faith,
because they have no other source of converts.
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then why do you not quote, scripture to back up your claim,

and quote in the correct context ,it dont matter ,when two or 3 gather , salvation is from god, so is context of the bible from god.

2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the fleshGalatians 3
 
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