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Just like the modern day Pharisee type accuse us, but as Christ said, they really accuse him
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Just like the modern day Pharisee type accuse us, but as Christ said, they really accuse him
I am going to also add.....this whole post reeks of ignorance.....Jesus in love raked the Pharisees over the coals and called them white washed coffins filled with the bones of dead men.....and blind leaders of the blind.
John called them and the people a generation of vipers....
Elijah mocked and ridiculed the prophets of Baal....
Just because I am cut and dry, to the point and do not put up with the way he uses deception to undercut the word does not mean that my motive is impure or false.....I love the truth and I hate no one, but you have been here how long now.....a few weeks.....you know nothing of what takes place here and the slick way a few in here twist, deceive, embellish and accuse.....and while I am there.....ALL I am JUDGING is DOCTRINE....you on the other hand JUDGED MY HEART and MOTIVE....BOTH SINS.....so......the ACCUSER did the same thing.......good for you......
So what...words on a page do not show motive and or facial expressions....Love and truth GO hand in hand....You are the type that would judge JESUS and JOHN when they preached what they preached.....and your view reeks of judging motive and is full of bias judgment without the facts.....simple solution....don't read my posts or come in this thread.....how is that?
Go judge yourself.....you don't know me nor my motive....he is as deceptive as they come...deal with him a while and you will see....and no where have I boasted of what I know or don't know....HAHAHHAA WHO ARE YOU ANYWAY....serious...your judgment of my motive and the things you say is just as much lacking pal.....
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The law condemns anyone wh one who does not follow it the way I showed you god requires, the fact you still can not grasp this should be your first concern
the legalist loves the law, because they think they can obey it, and by this they will earn salvation
Great way to treat a newcomer dcon.
And EG gave you a Like.
Great.
Zi was saying how your posts show No Love.
You just proved that they don't.
When a person has a good heart, it shows.
You Do Not display a good heart.
And you and EG are the most judgemental persons I have ever met.
You love God?
You love your fellow brother in the Lord?
Show it.
John 13:35
The law condemns anyone who does not follow it the way YOU showed God requires?
WHO YOU?
Is your name in the bible that we should listen to you?
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If you cared about anyone and you have answers why would you ban me from your thread if you so had the power? .. you're not Jesus and capable of flaws, he did all He did and perfectly, impossible for you to replicate.. you're not Elijah or John... Good way to divert attention tho because any will easily agree because those true accounts exist.. I've been alive on the Earth more than a few weeks, so again point lost for you but nice try.. I've experienced love and while no one can see facial expressions and what not, we were equipped with a wonderful vocabulary to express ourselves with.. Works quite well to aid in providing the difference between meanings, so we aren't taken wrong.. We are called to serve and love and are not above our Master, so bringing your lack of display to your attention while you beat the brains of someone with an issue, isn't the issue... You're not above reproach.. No matter what others are doing.. if you can call him on it then why are you untouchable? Because you made this thread? Is that what you run behind rather than looking inward...But I guess if faith is all you need then I'm wasting time... And so were you to point out my "sins" and any others
So you're saying the Bible contradicts itself?
Please exrgete the verses you're alluding to.
Listing them would also be helpful.
Chris posted his verse, like you're supposed to in this forum.
Please explain why you do not agree with him.
her post was judgmental, accusatory and contradicts the bible....SHE being a new comer rebuked one almost twice her age, judged my motive and my heart.....ALL false.....what you guys cannot seen to understand....we are not called to coddle false teachers...Chris is very deceptive in how he partially quotes and leaves off anything that contradicts his view....Would you say JESUS was loving the Pharisees when he raked them over the coals of John when he raked them over the coals?
See...motive cannot be judged and I have never bragged on my knowledge so.....if she can dish it out, she needs to be able to receive it......THE only people I am harsh with ARE the ones who deny the truth concerning salvation while pushing a works café blend false gospel....that does not mean that I do not care about them, like them or even love the....The LORD called many types...some were loving kind and smooth, some were rough straight forward and did not mince words.....JUDGE the message not the messenger......as God has called ALL Kinds to preach his message..............!
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ZI...I never banned no one....I said if you cannot deal with my straight forward approach then don't come in here....I have no problem with you except you judged my heart and motive and accused me of things not true.....go in any and all threads....I really do not care....so.....I see by your post you missed half of my points and in blind anger lashed out again instead of being honest....whatevz.....thanks anyway!
If you really believe that we have no dialogue in the world that will help us FRAN.......why is it that YOU, PETER and others cannot read plain English and be honest without EMBELLISHING or ADDING to what we say....I never said nor implied that the bible contradicts itself one iota....
He can't. Those verses stand. On their own. Self explanatory. No if's or but's. He can try all the "verbiage" he likes. They are there for all to see. And will testify against him on the Day of the Lord, lest he repents of his heresies.
It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.......I see no works in this verse
If you believe that God has raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved.......I see no works in this verse
He that believes on the Son s NOT condemned............................................I see no works in this verse
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy has he saved us....NO WORKS
In the Grace you are having been saved OUT of faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of GOD and not of works lest any man should boast....................................................................................I see no works in this verse
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosever belies in him should not perish but have everlasting life........................................................................................I see no works in this verse
We conclude a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law...............I see no works in this verse
Abraham believed God and it was put to his account for righteousness.............I see no works in this verse
O foolish Galatians, having begun in the spirit are you now made perfect by the flesh (works).....no works
Over and over again the bible is replete with verses that prove salvation is based upon FAITH and GRACE void of works....
Why is it that the workers for say WORKS are part of the equation...NO VERSES teach salvation by works.....but rather that the works are the result of FAITH and SALVATION that one already possesses IN CHRIST.......
The bible is clear......!
If you believe that God has raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved.......I see no works in this verse
He that believes on the Son s NOT condemned............................................I see no works in this verse
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy has he saved us....NO WORKS
In the Grace you are having been saved OUT of faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of GOD and not of works lest any man should boast....................................................................................I see no works in this verse
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosever belies in him should not perish but have everlasting life........................................................................................I see no works in this verse
We conclude a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law...............I see no works in this verse
Abraham believed God and it was put to his account for righteousness.............I see no works in this verse
O foolish Galatians, having begun in the spirit are you now made perfect by the flesh (works).....no works
Over and over again the bible is replete with verses that prove salvation is based upon FAITH and GRACE void of works....
Why is it that the workers for say WORKS are part of the equation...NO VERSES teach salvation by works.....but rather that the works are the result of FAITH and SALVATION that one already possesses IN CHRIST.......
The bible is clear......!
Gladly wait for that day...only one who pushes works.....and Jesus speaks to this......see how your boast of works goes in the day.......You may make the Day of God.....me....the day of Christ...why...I trust Jesus...you...you trust works.....we will see...
I'm well Bill, and how goes it with you my friend?
An opinion contrary to scriptural truth. Plain for all to see. The bible says you are to do the will of God. DCON says this is works and anyone promoting this are "workers for".
Pretty clear then.
No one condemns a brother to hell....it is the dogma and false gospel we judge....so.......maybe pay attention to your working for brother in post 13251 an rebuke him as well or are you bias toward him doing it and are ok with it?
You say you trust Jesus? Well He is the one who tells us to do the works of God. So you then deny Him?