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Dontcha just love Augustine?
He said he figured out where evil came from.
When he was much older and wiser, he admitted that we can't know.
He spoke of predestination.
NOT double predestination.
If he was wrong about other things, he might be wrong about this too.
You like to believe HIM instead of all the Others I gave you because you AGREE with him.
So, you believe YOU didn't decide to become a believer, but God chose you?
"The whole sermon on the mount is behavioural commands. Do this, do not do that.
It is not about opinion or options, but what Jesus expects in His followers."
this is why the gog labels them the law of moses and omits thier authority because Jesus is so clearly teaching How we are to act as His people. even though its not at all even similar to the Law of moses. teachers like paul ellis, joseph prince and the Like have taught that the gospel ministry of Jesus doesnt apply, only those things you find that leaves no condition upon your own actions. its very deceptive and elaborate explainations but you find not a single place in scripture that validates removing one word Of Jesus from Christianity. Because Jesus words are Christianity, behavior, serious warnings all the grace and belief scriptures, everything Jesus said is how it is, thats what so many have issue with.
because when a greedy person sees what Jesus says...they dont want it to be true. or a person who follows Lust sees what Jesus says, they dont want it to be true. or a person who is prone to violence and retaliation sees what Jesus says, they dont want it to be true ect. Jesus will either cause rejection of Him, or acceptance of Him through His word. He says as much when speaking how He was not bringing peace but a sword to divide. those who accept His blood and His word together will find victory, those who refuse His word will find judgement.
You're sooooo patient.
I admire you.
I'm a girl
I lose my patience.
Just like some here.
There exists the Natural Law (not the law of nature).
Romans 1:19-20
God is evident in people who not only do not know about Jesus, but maybe do not even know about God.
So does a JUST God banish them to hell because they never heard the word?
Is God a God of love, and a just God, or is He a mean and unjust God?
The American Indian didn't know Jesus. But they knew GOD. In whatever way they understood Him to be, they worshipped the God that created them and their world.
God is evident in nature. In the clouds, in the mountains. His power is obvious. Man feels that there is a power Greater than himself. That power is God.
They don't know about the trinity, they don't salvation economy, but they understand through what they see and what has been made that God exists and so they are without excuse.
A tribe in Africa, for example. Some in that tribe may be atheists, as we understand them to be.
Some may look up at the stars at night and understand that there must surely be a God. What could have created all that they see? Only God. However they understand that to be.
If YOU had never heard of Jesus, but understood the above, and wished to live a good life for that God, do you think He should send you to hell?
God is a big God. We CANNOT PUT HIM IN A BOX. God refuses to stay in a box.
What do you think?
how else can one defend a doctrine with zero merit but to accuse others of slander and false accusations? I can imagine Jesus meeting these folks and being told He doesnt get it because He was teaching the way
in parenthesis is why when were claiming we are already saved no matter what, were taking Judgement from Christ. Only Jesus has the right and authority to decide who belongs to His Kingdom, and we have the very words of the Judge to learn and Know.
Jesus isnt a scapegoat for sin, But the Highest authority in the universe, His words should be taken as such. as we learn them they change us from the condemned to the accepted and He is so good because we are only accouintable for those things He reveals to us through His word. if we reject Hois authority over His own Kingdom, well, the King spoke much about that and its result. and remember the principle of the ot when a king makes a decree it is irrevocable. or as Jesus puts it " heaven and earth will disappear but my words will never pass away"
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Ariel82
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Election is different from selection. Its in the Bible.
Jesus taught of election in these verses:
Luke 4
25But in truth, I tell you, there were many widows in Israel in the days of Elijah, when the heavens were shut up three years and six months, and a great famine came over all the land, 26and Elijah was sent to none of them but only to Zarephath, in the land of Sidon, to a woman who was a widow. 27And there were many lepersa in Israel in the time of the prophet Elisha, and none of them was cleansed, but only Naaman the Syrian.”
It made people mad back then too.
when you give to the needy, boast in my name Jesus tell the people the course.............do it in such a way that brings glory to God...
So the glory continues at cc.. coz people of God continue to support it and with there generosity from the heart they perform a good works and make a donation..
tell me is it a crime for me to say that im thinking about making a donation to cc ////
and then tell me the reason why..
I some how seem torn now coz ive been told im a bragger for telling my brothers ive done the work of what the lord would wants people to make a donation he says as much........ and so i have ive made one because i now some what feel this site is under constant attack from crazy people or maybe something else...
Ive come to the conclusion that this site needs help to survive this onslaught of daily denying God
To deny that we recieve our salvation on judgement day and we will be judged for are good works and bad works and deny the works we must do to let Jesus know we are truly one of his,,,, as instructed by Jesus is total denyal in my book,,,,
if ya want to label denying as severe then i would call this severe..God blesses those who bless and i think its a blessing ive donated to cc and not a curse... but no doubt i will be cursed again...
He who cusses is not Of God.
So the glory continues at cc.. coz people of God continue to support it and with there generosity from the heart they perform a good works and make a donation..
tell me is it a crime for me to say that im thinking about making a donation to cc ////
and then tell me the reason why..
I some how seem torn now coz ive been told im a bragger for telling my brothers ive done the work of what the lord would wants people to make a donation he says as much........ and so i have ive made one because i now some what feel this site is under constant attack from crazy people or maybe something else...
Ive come to the conclusion that this site needs help to survive this onslaught of daily denying God
To deny that we recieve our salvation on judgement day and we will be judged for are good works and bad works and deny the works we must do to let Jesus know we are truly one of his,,,, as instructed by Jesus is total denyal in my book,,,,
if ya want to label denying as severe then i would call this severe..God blesses those who bless and i think its a blessing ive donated to cc and not a curse... but no doubt i will be cursed again...
He who cusses is not Of God.
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Ariel82
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Why can't you be bothered to post verses or do your own exegesis?
14For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them 16on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.
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Everyone is given the moral law in,that hearts and have the free will to choose good or,evil....but most because, they are like their father Adam, choose to be selfish and disobey God. Therefore will stand condemned on judgement day unless they hear the gospel because the Law of sin and death condemns them.
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Please explain the difference between selection and election.
Election is biblical, Selection is new to me.
Hey followjesus,
Actually decrees WERE revocable. Which is why I'm tired of explaining this when some mention how they are sealed in the Holy Spirit.
A king could have sent out a decree creating a new law or even something less important.
IF HE CHANGED HIS MIND,
He would send out a new decree cancelling the first one.
Please find out about this and don't take my word for it.