Not By Works

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eternally-gratefull said:
That is how satan works, He takes truth, And mixes it with lie. And makes a half truth, All he has to do is get many to buy into it, and he has them hooked.

He makes a bunch of these half truth doctrines, and he has divided a bunch of people

then he takes the gospel. Makes many gospels with many half truths. and he has created the wide gate for many to go through, just pick one of the many false gospels. And left the few who find the one true gospel. to enter the narrow gate.

And that is why Paul got so angry with false teachers..
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sounds like you know him well... only joking your right... but of course your wrong to think workers are of satan..
 
JIMBO43 said:
Yes billy but ya still not getting it... He comes to convict the world... but only the believers will be convicted..
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I think I am getting what you are saying.

God will know who will believe and those who won't, so therefore believers will be convicted and believe.
Is that where you are coming from?

Either way to me, the Holy Spirit comes to convict the whole world. Some will repent and some won't.

We don't know who will and who won't. That's why we must always endeavour to be like Jesus.

We can sometimes think based on interaction with those around "No point talking about Jesus to them cause they just won't believe" I have been guilty of that.

In those situations God has asked me step up and offer to pray for them when the crap hits the fan.

I now even have confirmed atheists asking me pray for them, in fact I had one atheist send a prayer for me concerning my eye disease that may render me blind.

As a result confirmed atheists are now saying they are agnostic.

I had the privilege to lead someone to Christ a few months ago whom I never thought would become a believer but God stick with him, I had further delight to bapstise him on Easter Sunday. I cried more than he did at the grace of God.
 
JIMBO43 said:
sounds like you know him well... only joking your right... but of course your wrong to think workers are of satan..
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People who work to earn salvation and teach it are from Satan..

I am a worker. Not all workers are from Satan, God saved us for good works.. But some want to replace grace with works. They are from Satan.
 
BillG said:
I think I am getting what you are saying.

God will know who will believe and those who won't, so therefore believers will be convicted and believe.
Is that where you are coming from?

Either way to me, the Holy Spirit comes to convict the whole world. Some will repent and some won't.

We don't know who will and who won't. That's why we must always endeavour to be like Jesus.

We can sometimes think based on interaction with those around "No point talking about Jesus to them cause they just won't believe" I have been guilty of that.

In those situations God has asked me step up and offer to pray for them when the crap hits the fan.

I now even have confirmed atheists asking me pray for them, in fact I had one atheist send a prayer for me concerning my eye disease that may render me blind.

As a result confirmed atheists are now saying they are agnostic.

I had the privilege to lead someone to Christ a few months ago whom I never thought would become a believer but God stick with him, I had further delight to bapstise him on Easter Sunday. I cried more than he did at the grace of God.
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A wrench in the bolded above....

MANY are called, but few chosen!
 
eternally-gratefull said:
People who work to earn salvation and teach it are from Satan..

I am a worker. Not all workers are from Satan, God saved us for good works.. But some want to replace grace with works. They are from Satan.
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You know when God goes in search of his lost sheep does that include the unsaved ?

Or would that be a figment of my imagintion ? it seems to me that your just out to totaly condem workers to hell..

which is wrong in my book because there are many here who are tollerent of others believes and look to understand... where as you just want to throw our beliefs into the fire of hell,,, and also aparently now you want to throw us in hell to with our beliefs... No offence mate but you do sound a bit harsh to me to be calling anyone else evil here..
 
JIMBO43 said:
Yeah amen to sending brothers to hell to as well eh or is it ok in your book.. ???????????????
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I quoted scripture...receive it or not pal.....and you assume much........EG, like MYSELF, take the LORD's road on this....HE takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked!
 
JIMBO43 said:
You know when God goes in search of his lost sheep does that include the unsaved ?

Or would that be a figment of my imagintion ? it seems to me that your just out to totaly condem workers to hell..
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Dude, I just said I am a worker, and limited who I think is going to hell. And you still want to act like a kid who can not read? I am getting sick of yours nbonsense, I thought you said you were going to leave?

Eithgert learn how to read what people are saying and translate what they say, or please just go away

which is wrong in my book because there are many here who are tollerent of others believes and look to understand... where as you just want to throw our beliefs into the fire of hell,,, and also aparently now you want to throw us in hell to with our beliefs... No offence mate but you do sound a bit harsh to me to be calling anyone else evil here..
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I am not tolerant of any false gospel. If you are trying to EARN SALVATION by your works (can you read, or will you still try to slander me and say I am trying to send ALL workers to hell) Then you are from Satan, and I am apposed to yo, as is the word of God.

Not to be harsh, But I am sick of people who do not understand nbasic comprehension of what other people say, They either are out to attack. Or have problems they need to get taken care of..
 
JIMBO43 said:
Yeah amen to sending brothers to hell to as well eh or is it ok in your book.. ???????????????
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Gods children do not reject his grace and try to replace it by works. Neither are they my brother.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
Dude, I just said I am a worker, and limited who I think is going to hell. And you still want to act like a kid who can not read? I am getting sick of yours nbonsense, I thought you said you were going to leave?

Eithgert learn how to read what people are saying and translate what they say, or please just go away


I am not tolerant of any false gospel. If you are trying to EARN SALVATION by your works (can you read, or will you still try to slander me and say I am trying to send ALL workers to hell) Then you are from Satan, and I am apposed to yo, as is the word of God.

Not to be harsh, But I am sick of people who do not understand nbasic comprehension of what other people say, They either are out to attack. Or have problems they need to get taken care of..
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He lives in assumption(ville) and is either willfully contentious or seriously cannot understand basic English
 
BillG said:
I think I am getting what you are saying.

God will know who will believe and those who won't, so therefore believers will be convicted and believe.
Is that where you are coming from?

Either way to me, the Holy Spirit comes to convict the whole world. Some will repent and some won't.

We don't know who will and who won't. That's why we must always endeavour to be like Jesus.

We can sometimes think based on interaction with those around "No point talking about Jesus to them cause they just won't believe" I have been guilty of that.

In those situations God has asked me step up and offer to pray for them when the crap hits the fan.

I now even have confirmed atheists asking me pray for them, in fact I had one atheist send a prayer for me concerning my eye disease that may render me blind.

As a result confirmed atheists are now saying they are agnostic.

I had the privilege to lead someone to Christ a few months ago whom I never thought would become a believer but God stick with him, I had further delight to bapstise him on Easter Sunday. I cried more than he did at the grace of God.
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Lol billy we dont know who will be saved ... ??????????


Are you sure im reading this correctly...
 
eternally-gratefull said:
I think he just likes to argue, thats why most of the time i just ignor him
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Same here...I rarely engage....not open to learning and just twists what we say and implies, embellishes and or completely changes the context....seems most workers for do that....while taking the proverbial cake.....
 
eternally-gratefull said:
Gods children do not reject his grace and try to replace it by works. Neither are they my brother.
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Ok have you never been in rebellion ?.

Are you sure youll never be in rebellion ?........


And would you like to be rejected by everyone if that day ever come for you.
 
JIMBO43 said:
Ok have you never been in rebellion ?.

Are you sure youll never be in rebellion ?........


And would you like to be rejected by everyone if that day ever come for you.
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I was born in rebellion.

God saved me, So I have no fear. I will never live up to his standard.. Yet I try,, If everyone rejects me, Let them, I am not hear to please men, God never will reject me, Thats his promise to me.
 
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